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GliderGuider

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Mon Jun 11, 2012, 08:24 AM
Jun 2012

The problem is too abstract;
The effects are apparently well into the future;
The effect is just being noticed;
The fix isn't known at this time.

Humans have something called a "hyperbolic discount function", that arises from our evolved brain structure:

Communicating Future Threats

Why is it so difficult to generate concern for events that are seen as belonging to the future even though their consequences may be dire? It happens because of the way we're wired.

Millenia of natural selection favoured people who responded immediately to threats or rewards. Individuals that did not immediately run from the tiger were more likely to become the original Darwin Award winners. This selection reinforced our responses to immediate and clearly understood rewards or dangers. The further away in time the reward or danger was, the lower our response to it became, because its influence on our survival was correspondingly less. Even if we waited to run until a distant tiger got closer, the chances were good that we would escape anyway, so there was no need to leave our meal just yet.

This idea is known as the "discount rate". It's the same concept used by banks, where the present value of a future event is discounted depending on how far in the future it will happen. While banks use a linear discount rate (expressed as a percentage), there is strong evidence that human beings use a more complex function that comes from different parts of our brain. The more primitive parts (the brain stem and limbic system) are concerned with immediate survival and emotional responses. They are much less capable of long-term evaluation, but provoke the strongest reactions to pleasure or fear. The neocortex, on the other hand, is our thinking brain. It analyzes, predicts and plans for the future, but has more limited access to our emotional triggers.

As a result, immediate threats or rewards that require no deep analysis tend to activate the "older" portions of our brain and prompt very strong responses. More abstract threats and rewards identified through the analytical capability of our neocortex don't activate our limbic system, and so usually prompt a much less intense reaction. Immediate, concrete concerns always strongly outweigh distant, abstract ones. The discount function is called "hyperbolic" because it falls off very rapidly at first, then flattens out as time passes. Events that are very near term evoke a sense of urgency that falls off steeply as the time horizon passes from the domain of the limbic system to the domain of the neocortex, resulting in the characteristic shape of a hyperbolic curve:


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OMG drynberg Jun 2012 #1
Indeed! Why is this not in the national news! flpoljunkie Jun 2012 #2
especially since this is one of the most nutrient-rich MBS Jun 2012 #3
Isn't it obvious? TahitiNut Jun 2012 #4
and phytoplankton can't dance with the Stars. n/t KurtNYC Jun 2012 #43
Why is this not big news? chervilant Jun 2012 #5
Other ideas: GliderGuider Jun 2012 #12
I like to present important, complicated issues in the TLDR format (TLDR = Too Long, Didn't Read) TalkingDog Jun 2012 #19
Yeah, long boring paragraphs of text... GliderGuider Jun 2012 #26
Thanks for your post. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #38
Fascinating..I always wondered about that lack of concern about future consequences. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #35
You're welcome. GliderGuider Jun 2012 #36
OMG.... Tom1960 Jun 2012 #37
Oh, I don't know. I've known a few polymaths in my day who could give any autodidact coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #40
More important than every single social, economic, or political issue The Doctor. Jun 2012 #6
Can't inform the unwashed masses. Wouldn't be good for power, control or profits. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #10
Those of us who have tried have generally found that the masses don't listen. GliderGuider Jun 2012 #34
You can lead a horse to water but if there isn't a reflection of a sexy girl horse KurtNYC Jun 2012 #44
Boston Globe article here: highplainsdem Jun 2012 #7
"single-celled plants" TERMINOLOGY NITPICK ALERT!!! Odin2005 Jun 2012 #8
Some moran in the comments section wants to know if George Soros funded the study. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #9
Human beings are THIS close to blinking out of existence. UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #11
There are times when I think that might be the best thing for the planet. Denninmi Jun 2012 #14
I used to be enraged by this. UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #16
And for the solar system, galaxy and universe. I'm only sorry that dolphins and coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #41
We may be. GliderGuider Jun 2012 #15
200 to 500 years sounds very optimistic. UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #18
"Extinction" is a heavy duty process. GliderGuider Jun 2012 #25
Sounds like humans will be going underground UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #27
I know you are being snarky, but there is an idea out there that changing your own actions TalkingDog Jun 2012 #20
Agree. Personal action is important to the individual and those close to them. GliderGuider Jun 2012 #24
I actually feel it is a question of "personal virtue" raouldukelives Jun 2012 #28
1+++++++++++++ patrice Jun 2012 #32
+1 joshcryer Jun 2012 #42
Interested that it all goes back to climate change and heavy rainfall... mainer Jun 2012 #13
You missed out dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #22
Too little phytoplankton? Or too much? Another article, same day! thesquanderer Jun 2012 #17
The OP is from a report dated 24th May - its not LBN dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #30
The articles are new thesquanderer Jun 2012 #31
I do think you should post dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #33
Ok that's it, the hell with my diet. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #21
Because Senator Inhoffe says this is just another hoax.... Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #23
I have been worried about this ever since I first leaned where oxygen in the air came from. tabatha Jun 2012 #29
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Jessica3344 Jun 2012 #39
Since evolution is fake...then we can not expect a mutuation in phytoplankton to occur.... Evasporque Jun 2012 #45
Hopefully they are testing this in other areas of the world. Swede Jun 2012 #46
We'll all be dead from the disappearing bees first alcibiades_mystery Jun 2012 #47
K & R Quantess Jun 2012 #48
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