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Dont call me Shirley

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55. I agree whole heartedly we must win over the hearts and minds of voters to elect pro-union,

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:11 PM

Apr 2016

pro-people, progressive candidates to office, local and school board included. But we do not and will not have the msm as an ally, only as "the enemy" since their owners are those who have created the War on Labor.

The courts are only a temporary bandaid to hold together the gaping wound in the system. The real fix is in the economic system. Implementing Unions, democratic workplaces, worker owned cooperatives and strongly enforced labor laws would be realistic goals.

Optimism must be a strategy because optimism creates momentum. Momentum is what this movement needs even if it is angry optimistic momentum.

Obviously, I'm not a lawyer, nor have I experience in debate. I agree with all your positions, except for the optimism argument, I'm an eternal optimist. Thank you for your life's work, brandord.

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Court Strikes Down Scott Walker's Right-To-Work Law As Unconstitutional [View all] silvershadow Apr 2016 OP

Wont this now go to the SC in that state where a seat was stolen in election fraud? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #1

Probably so. Hopefully it will continue on up the chain, though. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #6

There may not be anywhere for it to go elljay Apr 2016 #28

"A" seat??? How about the majority of the seats. It would be very difficult to overstate ... Scuba Apr 2016 #37

Uhhh... really? Cal Carpenter Apr 2016 #2

Yeah, I'm hoping to see more from other sources about this. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #4

This is great news Gothmog Apr 2016 #3

Absolutely! I still say some state legislator should draft legislation ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #30

Look to this being overturned at the state Supreme Court level WhiteTara Apr 2016 #5

Most assuredly. My hope is it will move up the chain. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #7

Why? WhiteTara Apr 2016 #8

I am opposed to right to work laws. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #9

If it works up the chain to the state Supreme Court WhiteTara Apr 2016 #10

It has to make a stop on the way, which it surely will. All I was saying is that when it does silvershadow Apr 2016 #11

4-4SCOTUS WhiteTara Apr 2016 #14

Nor do I, though I wasn't expecting it to get to SCOTUS before the 9th Justice is silvershadow Apr 2016 #16

I think if we don't win back the Senate we can look WhiteTara Apr 2016 #17

I am pretty sure we won't have to wait that long for the affirmation. There MUST be silvershadow Apr 2016 #19

I'm sure Harry Reid is working on it WhiteTara Apr 2016 #20

He is a vile dinosaur, that's for sure. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #21

Yep....................the state now has a confirmed Kochite on the court........................... turbinetree Apr 2016 #12

So are Gableman, and the "strangling judge" Prosser...et al still it is a victory _K&R bobthedrummer Apr 2016 #39

Yes, but I fear it is not long lived. nt WhiteTara Apr 2016 #40

Maybe they would not have had this "terrible blow" murielm99 Apr 2016 #43

I wish Bernie had educated them about the needs of the state WhiteTara Apr 2016 #44

It's "establishment" to introduce murielm99 Apr 2016 #45

Democrats helping Democrats WhiteTara Apr 2016 #46

Right to work = you have no Rights. SoapBox Apr 2016 #13

Just goes to show that the so called constitutional conservatives Matthew28 Apr 2016 #15

Right to work for less facts Omaha Steve Apr 2016 #18

Our right to organize and form a union was infringed upon 30 years ago in Idaho. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #32

Scott Walker = Butthurt. nt phazed0 Apr 2016 #22

My thread about this was locked. Greybnk48 Apr 2016 #23

was it a dupe? Don't know... silvershadow Apr 2016 #24

It was a dupe by just a few minutes Omaha Steve Apr 2016 #29

It sounds like Wisconsin has had an awfully good week Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #25

If you don't like unions and don't want to pay union dues.... Hotler Apr 2016 #26

Exactly. If I and my colleagues bust our nuts to get union representing (which often takes years), silvershadow Apr 2016 #27

AS a UNION member..................................as all union members and supporters........... turbinetree Apr 2016 #31

Yep. I forgot to mention that I call them "squatters". I have known a few Republicans in my day silvershadow Apr 2016 #33

Couldn't agree more........................ turbinetree Apr 2016 #38

I always wondered how they could legally get away with this passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #34

Maybe the USPS should try something like this? Beartracks Apr 2016 #35

You might be, but I like the way you think! silvershadow Apr 2016 #36

This could work, you know..... Mustellus Apr 2016 #41

4-4 USSC decision would let that stand! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #42

It's VERY unlikely such a challenge will ever come before the U.S. Supreme Court. branford Apr 2016 #47

One never knows when the tide of extremism will turn. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #48

I wouldn't rest your hopes on SCOTUS on this issue. branford Apr 2016 #49

And a truthful 4th Estate. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #50

We cannot control the press. branford Apr 2016 #51

Ok, how about a little Fairness Doctrine then? And some optimism? Without that despair flourishes. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #53

The Fairness Doctrine is a First Amendment mess that will never return, branford Apr 2016 #54

I agree whole heartedly we must win over the hearts and minds of voters to elect pro-union, Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #55

I'm optimistic that we can accomplish the hard work of convincing voters branford Apr 2016 #56

Not all media are our adversary, but the billionaire owned Main Stream Media, which is a large Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #57

I don't believe you fully understand general employment and labor law. branford Apr 2016 #58

On the job, if you want to keep your job, you do what the boss says. I got fired because I wouldn't Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #59

A demand for sex as part of employment is unlawful in every state and city in the country, branford Apr 2016 #60

But what I'm saying is that employers do illegal stuff all the time and get away with it. Including Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #61

Exactly, you have no right to work. scscholar Apr 2016 #52

Awesome! Great news! Zira Apr 2016 #62