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cloudythescribbler

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22. abolishing "closed" primaries MUST be one of the things Bernie delegates demand of the platform ...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

... whether he is the nominee or not

I suspect that MANY of Hillary's own delegates would agree, and if he manages to hold his delegates together on this and many other issues both internal to party politics/process and on policy generally, there should be some concrete changes in the platform

I recognize that if Hillary gets the nomination, she and her camp will determine most of the main planks in the platform. But Bernie has a chance to win a lot of concessions at the Convention even under those circumstances

The reasons in principle why Independents, who are a huge and growing percentage of the population, should be able to vote in primaries and caucuses are many. First, Independents are crucial to victory in the general, and candidates like Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders who run strongly among independents should figure fully in the nominating process. Second, the notion of letting the 'neighbors' determine your 'house's interior decorating' just don't apply -- many voters registered as Independent are as important to the progressive Democrats as other less progressive Democrats. "Closed" primaries are a lot like voter ID laws -- they serve to narrow the voter base to the advantage of powerful elite interests in the elections

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Are there any other polls? What do they show? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #1
Or in other words: "I don't want this to be true." Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #28
Nailed it! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #29
I don't need other words. I asked a question, and that was my intent. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #38
Or even other words, it's not true. George II Apr 2016 #47
Are we nearing the point where you guys put your fingers in your ears and start singing: Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #48
And that's where Bernie's struggle lies. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #2
There are very few remaining "open" primaries, most are closed. George II Apr 2016 #5
Yup, that will make it even more difficult for him. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2016 #6
abolishing "closed" primaries MUST be one of the things Bernie delegates demand of the platform ... cloudythescribbler Apr 2016 #22
I doubt that many DEMOCRATIC delegates would be interested in opening up more primaries... George II Apr 2016 #26
In fact, after the mischief BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #31
Agreed. billhicks76 Apr 2016 #41
Closed primaries are nothing like BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #32
They are when party affiliation is changed without notice casuing people to be unable to vote. Gore1FL Apr 2016 #37
But polls have been consistently wrong in most elections this jwirr Apr 2016 #19
I hope you're right! (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2016 #24
We continually hear about the long lines waiting at the polls jwirr Apr 2016 #34
re: "There is no reason it will not happen in NY. " thesquanderer Apr 2016 #35
Yes, that is a possible problem. jwirr Apr 2016 #36
"Consistently" wrong = BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #33
And Sanders beats Trump, by a good amount for some time. Clinton doesn't. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #3
See this: George II Apr 2016 #11
Also from the article above is this about Sanders: Akamai Apr 2016 #12
"National" polls are a conglomeration of all 50 states, not individual states. That's not the way... George II Apr 2016 #14
There is no argument here SCantiGOP Apr 2016 #18
Touché...But This Article Also Cites National Polls billhicks76 Apr 2016 #42
Kind of odd considering she has 2.5M more votes than Sanders. George II Apr 2016 #4
Not really. blackspade Apr 2016 #8
it's a popular but misleading Hillarian talking point stupidicus Apr 2016 #21
Nothing odd about it at all. frylock Apr 2016 #15
The individual states schedule their primaries/caucuses, not the DNC, and other than... George II Apr 2016 #20
I don't believe I said that the DNC was responsible for the primary schedule.. frylock Apr 2016 #23
You said this: George II Apr 2016 #25
Sanders' poll numbers dropped? frylock Apr 2016 #27
+1000 BeanMusical Apr 2016 #30
Also, this count does not consider caucus states at all, who knows what those totals FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #39
Caucus states have been relatively small except for Washington and Minnesota.... George II Apr 2016 #40
Call it what you will... the more people get to know Bernie, the more vote for him. FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #46
You Know That's Misleading billhicks76 Apr 2016 #43
One isn't really relevant to the other Bradical79 Apr 2016 #45
Plus, Hillary's zentrum Apr 2016 #7
In California the only Hillary signs I've seen are LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #9
US Sen. Jeff Merkley Just Endorsed Sanders billhicks76 Apr 2016 #44
Were "Independents" included? If they are added, that puts Bernie far above half. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #10
(O) Kay-sick is the one we need to worry about Ligyron Apr 2016 #13
agreed. navarth Apr 2016 #17
Let me just say iamthebandfanman Apr 2016 #16
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