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Akicita

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22. I'll make these distinctions. H1B and undocumented immigration have the additional benefit of
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:51 PM
Apr 2016

providing a better life for almost exclusively POC from developing nations while legal immigration is generally open to anybody, rich or poor, from developed or undeveloped countries.

I am arguing that UNCONTROLLED immigration and outsourcing is detrimental to the American worker and beneficial to the elites. There is an argument that all immigration, outsourcing, and H1B should be managed with the best interests of the American worker in mind as well as the overall economy but the one percenters wouldn't like that so our politicians would never do it.

As far as jobs staying in the US and jobs leaving the US, I would think many H1B workers would rather have the jobs in their own communities where they wouldn't have to leave their extended family and their earnings would go much further. With undocumented immigrants, I would think many more of them would prefer the jobs in their own communities where they can be with their loved ones rather than having to brave a dangerous journey to the border, face a high risk of sexual assault or being forced into human slavery, possibly dying of thirst in the desert, and having to live illegally in a strange land with a strange language just to get the same job.

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It's only going to get worse. Bubzer Apr 2016 #1
How many of her supporters ... aggiesal Apr 2016 #3
I bet they won't even notice.. phazed0 Apr 2016 #4
People are dumb; they won't say anything until it's THEM. closeupready Apr 2016 #37
And worse! Hillary Clinton the key architect! phazed0 Apr 2016 #2
My hat's off to EmblemHealth for providing good jobs to POC in developing countries. Akicita Apr 2016 #5
And tough shit for Americans losing their jobs, right? n/t djean111 Apr 2016 #6
I think he forgot the ... aggiesal Apr 2016 #8
I have been called a racist for objecting to H-1B visas. djean111 Apr 2016 #9
I completely disagree with the H1B program ... aggiesal Apr 2016 #11
"this is all about depressing wages, and making profits" mac2766 Apr 2016 #13
I'd like to see an H1B visa program for C level officers, VPs & Directors. CrispyQ Apr 2016 #34
I don't mean to bust chops, but.... Adrahil Apr 2016 #39
I understand ... aggiesal Apr 2016 #41
Not at my company. Adrahil May 2016 #55
And what, may I ask is your company name? aggiesal May 2016 #58
Does offered Salary increase 8% year to year then? One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #53
Yes, we have regular raises. Adrahil May 2016 #54
Regular 2% Raises or 8% yes I will pay relocation expenses to get you here One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #57
I am genuinely on the fence on this issue. I do think that H1Bs, outsourcing, and undocumented Akicita Apr 2016 #20
Let the developing countries further LiberalElite Apr 2016 #23
One of those odd eccentricities-- like religion LanternWaste May 2016 #52
Local governments need to help their own people. christx30 May 2016 #56
It doesn't help foreigners all that much to have offshore bosses cprise Apr 2016 #32
There's IT workers in Ukraine TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2016 #42
I understand what you are trying to say, but "POC" in developing countries deserve more than Hoyt May 2016 #51
Now that Bernie lost NY and there are no cameras around, what are the chances of him beastie boy Apr 2016 #7
I see, ... aggiesal Apr 2016 #10
You're right. My reply should have been directed to those who followed your OP. beastie boy Apr 2016 #12
H1B and outsourcing are diametrically opposing issues? Akicita Apr 2016 #15
If you make no distinction between jobs staying in the US and jobs leaving the US beastie boy Apr 2016 #18
I'll make these distinctions. H1B and undocumented immigration have the additional benefit of Akicita Apr 2016 #22
You are contradicting yourself. H1B is very much controlled beastie boy Apr 2016 #24
H1B may not be controled enough if employers can fire American workers after they are forced Akicita Apr 2016 #25
Employers must document existing need for H1B workers before beastie boy Apr 2016 #26
My understanding is that there are holes in the program that employers are driving a truck through. Akicita Apr 2016 #27
You people kill me.. mac2766 Apr 2016 #16
I have accepted this a long time ago. beastie boy Apr 2016 #19
Either one mac2766 Apr 2016 #28
That's my boy! I would drag a gun-toting teabagger to the poll if the alternative is beastie boy Apr 2016 #30
Eh? mac2766 May 2016 #46
I am agreeing with you 100% beastie boy May 2016 #47
Democracy mac2766 May 2016 #48
ouch mac2766 Apr 2016 #17
it will get worse. nt antigop Apr 2016 #14
Yes, much worse. But people are dumb. closeupready Apr 2016 #38
Find the ceo's and board of directors home addresses and protest in front of their homes. kimbutgar Apr 2016 #21
Not sure your reply represents a response to the OP... mac2766 Apr 2016 #29
No I got your post kimbutgar Apr 2016 #40
Hard to oppose Indians and Chinese when we support Mexicans egalitegirl Apr 2016 #31
First, we don't have a "Mexican" imigrant problem. Unicorn Apr 2016 #33
So it's okay to take our jobs as long as they aren't the high paying ones? Luciferous Apr 2016 #35
Apparently. Throd Apr 2016 #44
They have a hard life in their countries too egalitegirl Apr 2016 #36
And then life gets tough right here for IT workers who lose their jobs. djean111 Apr 2016 #43
We cannot single out IT workers egalitegirl Apr 2016 #45
It's not xenophobia to say that the HB-1 program christx30 May 2016 #50
Kick sarcasmo May 2016 #49
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