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94. People who are violently mentally ill, like the decedent appears to be

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:10 AM

Apr 2016

based on the comments from his own family described in your OP-linked article, often act quite irrationally and dangerously.

The decedent was either mentally ill and inherently dangerous, or competent and still criminally trespassed and refused to leave despite requests and warning, and was thus proven dangerous. Neither choice is particularly good, and both strongly support justified self-defense and the totally unsurprising decision not to charge Stephenson.

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South Carolina entrepreneur to face no charges in shooting [View all] Judi Lynn Apr 2016 OP

I wonder how many people will still want to buy his shitty polo shirts...Skipjack and all. Hoppy Apr 2016 #1

I'd never boycott someone who was attacked with a knife and defended himself. Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #87

You forget the other man had already fired off some shots, he says, to warn him. Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #91

See my post # 90 below. branford Apr 2016 #95

The cops are not as stupid as you think they are. I am sure Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #110

"No one normal?" guillaumeb Apr 2016 #118

Why did you cut out the very next sentence? braddy Apr 2016 #2

Are you unaware we aren't supposed to post more than 4 paragraphs in LBN? Sad. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #3

I would have managed to not leave such a powerful and inaccurate perception, the thread braddy Apr 2016 #4

Give us a "f'r instance", why not? Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #5

Here's your four paragraphs you could have better posted Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #18

I'm asking for a raise, now, since I have become an editor! Hot damn. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #20

Not if your purpose is to vilify gun owners. There's an agenda at work with this one. Marengo Apr 2016 #30

Have you never noticed there is a "comment" section, separated by a line, below the article? Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #33

Cool story, sis. See post 18. Marengo Apr 2016 #35

Much more important to describe his company logo... TipTok Apr 2016 #41

God...people are such chickensh*ts... mark67 Apr 2016 #13

We weren't there, he was attacked with a knife and with someone else in the house. braddy Apr 2016 #14

No, according to the story... mark67 Apr 2016 #29

As an adult, of course he went out to deal with the situation and speak to the intruder, braddy Apr 2016 #32

Your posts are killing me... mark67 Apr 2016 #49

He called the police and demanded the intruder leave before the warning shots. branford Apr 2016 #56

This part isn't correct: scscholar Apr 2016 #57

Reread my post, I said "As an adult, of course he went out to deal with the situation and braddy Apr 2016 #59

Sure.. sendero Apr 2016 #75

Well, no, he continued advancing toward the guy who it appears was justifiably scared Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #88

So scared, holding the shotgun, and shooting "warning shots" at a man whom he says made Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #92

People who are violently mentally ill, like the decedent appears to be branford Apr 2016 #94

Did you add all those photos? They aren't at the link, did you add the text? braddy Apr 2016 #6

You've made your case. When you have time you'll notice, if you're not careful, Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #7

Oh come on, you didn't just bury the lede, you left it out entirely. branford Apr 2016 #11

Would you please provide the mysterious lede I left out entirely? Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #19

Are you saying I should remove the photos? That's something DU'ers might consider: Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #8

No, I was pointing out that you put a lot of work, photos and text in your posting of the story, braddy Apr 2016 #9

Adding photos, additional material beneath the photo is not acceptable? Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #15

I'll inquire again, what were the photos intended to demonstrate or prove? nt branford Apr 2016 #24

Notice they never can answer Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #27

Might consider the photos for what exactly? branford Apr 2016 #12

You misread my response. I was speaking of the poster's resentment I included photos. Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #16

What exactly was the reason for the photos? A link to say a video of the entire incident so we could cstanleytech Apr 2016 #36

Oh, he understands perfectly well. Your intent is clear. Marengo Apr 2016 #37

How do you know he pulled a knife and threatened him with it? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #76

Read my posts, or the article, the very next sentence that was left out of the OP is...... braddy Apr 2016 #78

According to? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #79

Do your own research, the thread is right here, you are reading it. braddy Apr 2016 #80

Exactly, according to the shooter, and why should we believe him? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #81

Take it up with the investigators who decided what happened. braddy Apr 2016 #82

Well, for starters and at the very least, Stephenson wasn't the one criminally trespassing, branford Apr 2016 #90

What a strange story madville Apr 2016 #10

It's good you got that out of your system, apparently. Sure, he should have killed him. Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #17

In an earlier account, the family said something entirely different. Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #21

From another earlier article published in Greenville, S.C.: Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #22

Homicide does not mean murder. branford Apr 2016 #23

Thanks. Didn't know that. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #25

SOMETHING TO BEAR IN MIND! cynzke Apr 2016 #26

It depends on the state law - defending your castle or stand your ground csziggy Apr 2016 #28

you sure about : melm00se Apr 2016 #39

Legal experts say that the Florida law does remove the duty to retreat csziggy Apr 2016 #40

"Stand your ground" is an expansion of, not the same as, the "Castle Doctrine." branford Apr 2016 #43

While I agree about innocents not needing to "cower" csziggy Apr 2016 #45

You're generally citing cases where juries have rejected the defenses. branford Apr 2016 #46

I wonder how many of the people who are dead think the system is working csziggy Apr 2016 #47

First, we need to be careful to distinguish basic self-defense, Castle Doctrine, branford Apr 2016 #48

Back the the case in the OP - the man had no reason to carry his gun out csziggy Apr 2016 #50

Whether you want to admit it or not, branford Apr 2016 #58

Whitman did not become violent until Stephenson fired his gun csziggy Apr 2016 #74

I don't know for a fact Stephenson is a gun fancier. But many gun fanciers have acquired weapons Hoyt Apr 2016 #84

So, as a rule, branford Apr 2016 #89

How nice for you, but your experience is not universal... Marengo Apr 2016 #114

And we accuse Fox News of being disingenuous fake news. Calista241 Apr 2016 #31

That about sums up the thread. N/T beevul Apr 2016 #112

looks like a justified shooting, good decision nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #34

911 audio from 'castle' shooting Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #38

Maybe he should have let him take a few whack with the knife... TipTok Apr 2016 #42

According to the photos in the OP, Stephenson was both rich and a republican. branford Apr 2016 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author mark67 Apr 2016 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author mark67 Apr 2016 #52

No... mark67 Apr 2016 #53

Stephenson looks like the stereotypical rich republican little snot, however its hard to fault him tularetom Apr 2016 #54

How is the the shooters political affiliation or wealth relevant at all to the story, branford Apr 2016 #61

I'm not "conceding" shit, I'd probably do the same thing in similar circumstances tularetom Apr 2016 #62

So, you're judging his value or actions based exclusively or primarily on his appearance branford Apr 2016 #63

Actually I'm not judging his "actions" at all tularetom Apr 2016 #64

"Class based stereotyping" is acceptable? Really? branford Apr 2016 #66

You would have been a real hoot on the streets of Paris in 1793 tularetom Apr 2016 #70

While I certainly don't agree with Trump and Romney, branford Apr 2016 #71

That's it, finally you have nailed it! tularetom Apr 2016 #73

What "currently passes?" branford Apr 2016 #93

Whatever tularetom Apr 2016 #100

A terrified little man with a gun leads to a predictable outcome. guillaumeb Apr 2016 #55

Did you even read the the whole linked article? branford Apr 2016 #60

When I was 15 I knocked on my girlfriend's window at night... mark67 Apr 2016 #65

First, your story would likely not have involved justified self-defense branford Apr 2016 #68

No...actually what I'm saying is... mark67 Apr 2016 #86

It's not a binary choice between "pinning a medal on the shooter" branford Apr 2016 #96

Respectfully, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about... mark67 Apr 2016 #108

My relative is a close first cousin in his 50's who has severe schizophrenic branford Apr 2016 #109

It's actually a simple matter and you are talking around the issue... mark67 Apr 2016 #116

You are stating something not in evidence. He had NO history of violence, according to his family, Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #67

I believe you mean Post #21. branford Apr 2016 #69

You believe breaking a vase is "violence." I see. Your insights are unique. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #83

Really? branford Apr 2016 #97

Utter lunacy. guillaumeb Apr 2016 #117

An older article indicates the sheriff refused to give information to the "news" media: Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #72

Victim�s Family Issues �Castle Killing� Statement Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #77

An interesting area in the family's statement indicates Stephenson was arrested for tresspassing: Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #85

The family's statements have not exactly been consistent, branford Apr 2016 #101

Doesn't matter if they all whistled "Dixie." It was not his place to slaughter that man. Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #103

Did you happen to notice that Stephenson wasn't charged with any crime, branford Apr 2016 #105

Sad to hear this Unicorn Apr 2016 #98

In very few jurisdictions is a resident required to remain in their home branford Apr 2016 #99

You have only the word of the one who killed the other. There IS no other voice, unfortunately. Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #102

So, we should discount the entire police investigation, branford Apr 2016 #104

No inconsistant statements from the family regarding "prior violence."There was NO "prior violence." Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #106

It was your own citation about the prior violence, branford Apr 2016 #107

"Dirty"? What an odd descriptor. What is it intended to mean? Marengo Apr 2016 #113

Stephenson was "dirty" because he had the audacity to be both rich AND Republican. branford Apr 2016 #115

If the facts are as laid out, it's justified AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #111