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happyslug

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30. You hate what I suspect Israel MAY become, not what I said.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:19 PM
Apr 2016

Israel wants the West Bank. I cite a book that made the same point, but never came out and said it. The Position reflects the GEOGRAPHY of Israel and the West Bank and what that means from a military point of view. Without the West Bank, Israel has no place to retreat to and hide against a superior force. With the West Bank it has a place to do just that. Thus the Ancient Philistines disappeared from History for they base was in the Gaza Strip, but that strip is easy to take and hold for it is very flat. The same with the Ancient Phoenicians, once conquered by Alexander the Great, they disappear from History.

The Ancient Jews survived well into Christian Times by falling back on the West Bank in times of Crisis, that included when Persia took Egypt, when Assyria took Egypt, When Egypt marched on the Hittites and then the Assyrians. That included Napoleon's war on Turkey after he took Egypt. None of them wanted to take Jerusalem or the West Bank unless forced to do so. The Babylonians did so, more to protect their flank if and when Egypt would attack them. Rome did so, but left the Jews alone till the Jewish war of 120 AD (and even afterward, Jews remained in the West Bank).

I am just pointing out something you do NOT want to hear, that Israel wants the West Bank to be Jewish and have a good rationale for wanting the West Bank to be Jewish. The problem is that means getting rid of the Palestinians in the West Bank. Given the support Israel needs from the US, forceful removal of the whole population is not presently possible, but if that support is no longer needed AND Israel enters a time period where it no longer cares what the world thinks it is doing, that is the same position Hitler found himself in regards to the Jews in Europe in 1942.

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Sure. I've always said if we give California to Israel everything would be solved.... Blue Meany Apr 2016 #1
In regards to size... Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #5
Funny how some people comment about Israel without knowing much about Israel. onenote Apr 2016 #8
It is not all that uncommon. Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #23
Thought that already happened. ...nt 2naSalit Apr 2016 #2
What do you mean by that? oberliner Apr 2016 #6
I am guessing... LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #36
I don't think so oberliner Apr 2016 #39
{{{chuckle}}} eom Purveyor Apr 2016 #7
Your reply is not a surprise King_David Apr 2016 #34
My dog ran to my laptop as soon as you posted that. nt Codeine Apr 2016 #46
It seems like the British Labor party is infested with Antisemites. Mosby Apr 2016 #3
Yup iandhr Apr 2016 #4
to be slighty more nuanced... Ironing Man Apr 2016 #9
Labour has a long history of supporting the underdog. happyslug Apr 2016 #13
+1 ozone_man Apr 2016 #15
You are recommending a post that suggests Israel could become Nazi Germany? oberliner Apr 2016 #18
Read his post. ozone_man Apr 2016 #51
This is one of the most unhinged posts I have ever read on DU with respect to this subject oberliner Apr 2016 #16
You hate what I suspect Israel MAY become, not what I said. happyslug Apr 2016 #30
Palestinians want Israel gone as well oberliner Apr 2016 #41
Underdogma Throd Apr 2016 #50
To some people ANY criticism of Israel is "Antisemitism". Odin2005 Apr 2016 #14
When you say that Israel should be relocated to the United States oberliner Apr 2016 #19
That is true of some; but real antisemitism also exists LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #37
Except that this has nothing to do with criticism of Israel harrose Apr 2016 #47
????? I have seen some PRO-Palestians pieces from the Labour, but nothing anti-Semitic. happyslug Apr 2016 #11
Saying that Israel should move to North America? oberliner Apr 2016 #17
I have no idea, my comments was both "people" are members of the "Semitic Race". happyslug Apr 2016 #28
Right oberliner Apr 2016 #42
There is no such thing as a Semitic Race; 'Semitic' is a linguistic term referring to a group of LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #44
Antsemite is a word that means prejudiced against Jews oberliner Apr 2016 #21
Antisemitism was a word first invented in 1860, and its use at that time period included Arabs happyslug Apr 2016 #27
It's not 1860 oberliner Apr 2016 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Apr 2016 #22
Someone making CLAIMS what others are saying and meaning happyslug Apr 2016 #24
Broken clocks are right twice a day when it comes to the Telegraph. iandhr Apr 2016 #29
Again, you dislike the fact Labour has a history of support for the underdog happyslug Apr 2016 #31
No I dislike support of TERRORISTS. iandhr Apr 2016 #32
If we start to do the 'guilt by association'... LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #38
All parties are somewhat infested with antisemites and other racists LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #35
You've got partisans on both sides in Labour T_i_B Apr 2016 #45
True. And some who have no views at all about anywhere outside Europe. LeftishBrit Apr 2016 #48
My twitterfeed is currently full of outrage over Ken Livingstone T_i_B Apr 2016 #58
An OP was just put up leftynyc Apr 2016 #61
How about Texas? greymouse Apr 2016 #10
nah...would set off another arguement with the folks who live there who is gods chosen.... dembotoz Apr 2016 #62
Sorry she was found out more like MowCowWhoHow III Apr 2016 #12
Yeah...any old chunk of land should make the Jews happy. ileus Apr 2016 #20
Yeah because this was so meant to be taken seriously... anigbrowl Apr 2016 #53
Wasn't that the plot of a Michael Chabon novel? Chan790 Apr 2016 #25
The Yiddish Policemen's Union oberliner Apr 2016 #26
Have you read Michael Chabon's latest report oberliner ? Israeli Apr 2016 #33
It doesn't sound like the book is finished oberliner Apr 2016 #40
MP Naz Shah suspended from Labour MowCowWhoHow III Apr 2016 #49
Guess I shouldn't run for office then anigbrowl Apr 2016 #52
since you are such an expert in the use of humour Angel Martin Apr 2016 #54
Gladly anigbrowl Apr 2016 #55
That would have completely changed the film wouldn't it? Nihil Apr 2016 #63
what's funny? Mosby Apr 2016 #56
If this were a Jewish MP and said the same thing, except he meant Arabs... Behind the Aegis Apr 2016 #57
No shit. It's unreal. n/t shira Apr 2016 #60
My solution is one final battle- Fundies of all sides have it all out one last time. snooper2 Apr 2016 #67
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In spiraling anti-Semitism row, Labour suspends Livingstone for saying Hitler backed Zionism Mosby Apr 2016 #64
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Nothing special about Naz Zhah - plenty more antisemites like her in the Labour Party Mosby Apr 2016 #66
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