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50. Both parties have lost enough members over the last thirty years they barely represent half

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:03 AM

Apr 2016

the public, offering up two candidates that are neither trusted or well liked by the general public...

If dwindling membership and a relatively unknown Independent Socialist in his 70's giving a Dem party icon a run for her money doesn't provoke some genuine internal soul searching searching then I'm afraid the Democratic party is heading over the same cliff the Republicans have already gone over...

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Message auto-removed [View all] Name removed Apr 2016 OP

The 6% and 3% in those polls are dolts (IMO) rpannier Apr 2016 #1

You're being kind Renew Deal Apr 2016 #4

Especially in states where there's a contested US Senate race Funtatlaguy Apr 2016 #60

Rasmussen is an outlier edhopper Apr 2016 #2

Yes, Rasmussen tends to be. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #11

How? It shows him with far less GOP support and a lot more "stay home" votes 7962 Apr 2016 #18

psssssh rtracey Apr 2016 #27

Well, I guess he DOES have a chance, but I'd say its hers to lose 7962 Apr 2016 #78

76% turnout would be outstanding Renew Deal Apr 2016 #3

These numbers do not represent 'turnout'. The U.S. always at 52-54% turnout. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #8

I could be wrong but, I don't think a Clinton/Trump race will generate enough excitement to produce Hiraeth Apr 2016 #12

It would not approach the 50% mark by a long shot. I hope people would turn out for at LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #29

and god forbid if the weather is bad that day. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #34

I have yet to figure out how her supporters can say that the kids who stand in line for hours LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #48

what a view he had from that mountain top. wish we all could see it, too Hiraeth Apr 2016 #54

Right. They are saying that voter turnout will be 24% below what would otherwise be expected. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #42

yes, but Hiraeth Apr 2016 #44

Because that's not how math works Perogie Apr 2016 #58

I left out a step but, I bet my 30% will be closer than the 41%. interesting. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #62

Maybe, but your 30% figure is a gut feeling, the poll data supports a figure of 41%. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #114

Math thesquanderer Apr 2016 #71

Please refer to my reply above #62 in this thread. Thank you. eom Hiraeth Apr 2016 #76

The Dems near the top of my GE ballot are likely... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #88

abysmally low, I fear. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #89

I expect many voters will crawl over broken glass to keep Trump out of the White House. emulatorloo Apr 2016 #115

Then this poll is noise Renew Deal Apr 2016 #17

^this^ and +1000 Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #52

They are saying that there would be a 76% turnout among what would otherwise be likely voters. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #25

The poll sounds like garbage Renew Deal Apr 2016 #75

if trump gets elected your world will go as bad as it will for all...so I hope the ego and pride beachbum bob Apr 2016 #5

and the supreme court ruling that installed george w. moron* had nothing to do with it, right? Javaman Apr 2016 #15

Nothing to worry about. zeemike Apr 2016 #20

Some will REFUSE to stay home!! Herman4747 Apr 2016 #6

And those people would be unwise Renew Deal Apr 2016 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #39

I hope you don't live in NC. You would be obstructing MY work and the diverse groups blm Apr 2016 #70

Selfish Renew Deal Apr 2016 #83

You joined DU last week to push voting 3rd party? blm Apr 2016 #90

Naderite says what? redstateblues Apr 2016 #7

One more time with the facts: Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #22

I will not vote for the Bush/Clinton/Kissinger dynasty Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #9

+1 nt Javaman Apr 2016 #16

Right there with you. djean111 Apr 2016 #10

Good news. joshcryer Apr 2016 #13

Yeah, you keep driving home that talking point Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #28

let me fix that for you Hiraeth Apr 2016 #40

That's not true CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #80

Ds will vote D. Rs will vote R. They have to. The other candidates is nuts don't you know. :) WhoWoodaKnew Apr 2016 #14

Unless we don't feel we've been presented with a D Kittycat Apr 2016 #49

People will vote against Trump. WhoWoodaKnew Apr 2016 #67

Yes, as will I Kittycat Apr 2016 #92

And people will vote against Hillary MissDeeds Apr 2016 #94

Some Ds will not vote for an R that only has a D wrapper on it. Gene Debs Apr 2016 #77

Which is why she needs (or even Bernie needs) a great Vice President choice LynneSin Apr 2016 #21

Don't worry, Bernie has no interest in being a VP for HRC. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #36

And I doubt Cory or Julian will excite the American populace enough to GOTV. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #46

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Yes it is. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #31

Thank you for joining DU to tell us you won't vote for Dem candidate in Nov. blm Apr 2016 #24

Don't worry, if your candidate is not sanctioned by the DNC zalinda Apr 2016 #91

You must have meant that reply for another post. Mine was about GOTV blm Apr 2016 #98

What matters most is apparently more would abandon Trump than Clinton. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2016 #26

Those that don't vote, don't have the right to complain about what they get liberal N proud Apr 2016 #30

Then give us a candidate that we can vote for. zalinda Apr 2016 #95

NOT an excuse! liberal N proud Apr 2016 #102

Rasmussen Reports, really. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #32

Someone who can't choose between Hillary and Trump Progressive dog Apr 2016 #33

Does that include Hillary's super pac ads? Also, what $ should be added for positive MSM coverage? floppyboo Apr 2016 #38

I know. Trump's been getting BILLIONs of dollars worth of coverage that I've never witnessed blm Apr 2016 #59

It's pretty sick, the TrumpTV MSM - you can almost feel them salivating... blech floppyboo Apr 2016 #69

I don't know how much Bernie's positive MSM coverage Progressive dog Apr 2016 #61

I was comparing networks' excessive coverage of Trump to what HRC and Sanders blm Apr 2016 #66

It is well known, any attention is better than no attention at all. eom zalinda Apr 2016 #97

Bernie didn't have "big money". It came from us, the poor voters. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #47

Money is fungible, Progressive dog Apr 2016 #81

What does that have to do with anything. He spent money on his campaign. So? Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #93

If money spent on campaigns buys votes, Progressive dog Apr 2016 #99

Trump is to the left of Hillary zalinda Apr 2016 #100

Horsepoo. Trump raged just last night he intends to be MORE fierce militarily. blm Apr 2016 #106

Since when is war, fracking and Wall Street progressive? Kittycat Apr 2016 #53

So you have a list of simple Progressive dog Apr 2016 #86

I clicked on the link, but only found the polls Clinton +7.3, Sanders +15.2 but no breakdown floppyboo Apr 2016 #35

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #43

thanks! floppyboo Apr 2016 #45

poop. you have to have a platinum membership with Rasmussen. anyone? floppyboo Apr 2016 #56

I understand how liberals feel, I feel the same.. mountain grammy Apr 2016 #37

I will vote and especially for the down ticket because I like jwirr Apr 2016 #110

If you liked Dubya, you'll love Donnie Vogon_Glory Apr 2016 #41

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #51

Oh the protests of the allegedly pure-at-heart Vogon_Glory Apr 2016 #73

I DID NOT PUT AN ALERT ON THE POST I RESPONDED TO Vogon_Glory Apr 2016 #82

I'm a Sanders voter and I am also a Sanders voter who works GOTV for Dems, blm Apr 2016 #101

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #57

Trump is promising FIERCER military confrontations. You're putting your FAITH in his blm Apr 2016 #63

Yes, I am brilliant. Thank you! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #68

+1 - and don't forget his agitating of Mexico JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #72

Sell that fable to the DREAMERS Vogon_Glory Apr 2016 #79

I'm not selling anything. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #84

Trump is neither liberal nor conservative Boomer Apr 2016 #104

Both parties have lost enough members over the last thirty years they barely represent half raindaddy Apr 2016 #50

Uh-oh. Apathy and Bernie supporters staying away are the only ways we lose. underpants Apr 2016 #55

Bad decisions on one persons part... peace13 Apr 2016 #65

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #87

A Non vote is still a vote JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #64

In the end... Aviation Pro Apr 2016 #74

In 2008, both candidates were cut from the same cloth zalinda Apr 2016 #105

I'm not concerned one bit ... LannyDeVaney Apr 2016 #85

Why would you waste your beautiful mind on something like that. eom zalinda Apr 2016 #107

I have seen this type of rhetoric in every election for the past forty years. Laser102 Apr 2016 #96

But, this time it will be decisive. One more reason to hope the lineup changes on our side. leveymg Apr 2016 #103

Scott Walker was elected in 2010 Jimbo S Apr 2016 #108

Why did you join DU? leftofcool Apr 2016 #109

Trump will lose to a woman Chico Man Apr 2016 #111

So many folks abdicating one of their most important rights Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #112

And there was no difference between Bush and Gore! liberalgunwilltravel Apr 2016 #113