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127. How many versions of the second amendment are there? And what constitutes

Reply to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #125)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:31 PM

Apr 2016

the fetishizing of guns?

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But but but guns are meant to be free! Eugene Apr 2016 #1

As long as they are proven as reliable as current guns in all situations hack89 Apr 2016 #2

They'll network them eventually. CJCRANE Apr 2016 #4

you wouldn't own a phone that couldn't be shut off or locked from use CreekDog Apr 2016 #138

Don't pay your cell phone bill lancer78 Apr 2016 #140

Your phone will still work CreekDog Apr 2016 #142

Lol lancer78 Apr 2016 #144

And my phone does unlock Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #146

Current guns are not reliable in all situations. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #56

Hell of a lot more reliable Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #65

Do you have the data? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #72

If they were, they would be for sale Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #81

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #84

If they worked the police would be using them as weapon retention is a big deal for them. EX500rider Apr 2016 #153

'Not reliable in all situations.' CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #68

Actually, I have one ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #74

No argument about carrying it or not.... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #76

That does not answer his question Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #83

Yes, I did ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #87

You went from arguing current gun technology wasn't reliable in all situations Press Virginia Apr 2016 #94

Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #97

So technically you have no data. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #177

situations such as? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #89

There is a DUer, who will happily disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #95

That's a specific gun. Your claim wasn't about specific firearm reliability Press Virginia Apr 2016 #101

Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #102

Semi auto handguns... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #96

The claim was current guns aren't reliable in all situations Press Virginia Apr 2016 #99

I know. I have this habit... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #105

Yes. But those are specific to that particular gun not the technology as whole Press Virginia Apr 2016 #115

Aside from manufacturers defect, improperly maintaining the weapon Press Virginia Apr 2016 #108

I'll bury my Smith in the mud... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #111

You could do the same with an AK 47 and any glock or sig semi Press Virginia Apr 2016 #113

Yes, but... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #116

You do win Press Virginia Apr 2016 #117

Yay!!! CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #118

But what if your revolver were a Taurus??? S_B_Jackson Apr 2016 #139

Never... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #149

Current guns are not reliable in all situations. Angel Martin Apr 2016 #145

WILL NOT CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #174

I think some of the new J frames Angel Martin Apr 2016 #175

Same reason it took 80 years to upgrade the M2... TipTok Apr 2016 #135

Your argument is the same as those who argued against seat belts. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #166

The technology.... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #173

Seat belts don't reduce the capabilities of a car... TipTok May 2016 #197

As long as we have weapons without wisdom there is no safety that will ever be adequate. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2016 #3

We might not take gun fanciers' guns like other advanced countries, but sooner or later we will tell Hoyt Apr 2016 #5

Sure - once you get public support for gun control perhaps. hack89 Apr 2016 #6

You just can't handle the thought of restrictions on your bad gun habits. Hoyt Apr 2016 #16

What 'bad gun habits' does Hack89 have, hoyt? beevul Apr 2016 #18

Well, his problems aren't as bad as yours. Supposedly, he doesn't need a gun in his pants Hoyt Apr 2016 #20

That isn't an answer. beevul Apr 2016 #27

He ran away? Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #67

What else is he going to do? beevul Apr 2016 #128

His tail spends so much time between his legs that his inner thighs must be horribly chafed. NT pablo_marmol Apr 2016 #133

The bad habit... TipTok Apr 2016 #137

So just what bad habits does bee have also Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #66

I have no bad gun habits hack89 Apr 2016 #21

Well, your passion has helped put more gunz on the streets and in the hands of yahoos. Hoyt Apr 2016 #22

I am part of the solution hack89 Apr 2016 #23

How is Hack part of the problem...??? CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #39

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #42

Thank you. CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #45

If you're not willing to embrace new technology that makes guns safer FOR SOCIETY KittyWampus Apr 2016 #167

The technology... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #169

There is technology. However your fear of the boogeyman will not allow you to accept an already Hoyt Apr 2016 #180

Please provide a link... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #182

I am sure George Zimmerman felt the same. Of course, my bet is you consider him a law-abiding Hoyt Apr 2016 #185

George Zimmerman... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #190

Compromise... sarisataka Apr 2016 #183

My guns... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #171

How has he done that? Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #69

Is Hack.... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #172

Company, your and Hack's love of gunz helps fund the gun industry, the NRA, militias, etc. Hoyt Apr 2016 #178

I purchased my last handgun... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #179

I guess you missed the racist Bundy ranchers, just to mention one. Or, maybe you consider that Hoyt Apr 2016 #181

If it were a warzone... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #184

The fact you qualified annually does not impress. There is zero chance you'd be in that kind of Hoyt Apr 2016 #186

I'm not trying to impress anyone. CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #189

There is overwhelming public support for gun La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #30

Not the kind Hoyt wants. hack89 Apr 2016 #34

The us is extremists about guns La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #35

How so? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #86

Don't be dim JoFerret May 2016 #193

So exercising a right to own a gun is extremist? Press Virginia May 2016 #194

"Compare with anywhere in the world." OK... EX500rider May 2016 #196

Hold on, a few posts ago, you emphatically stated, branford Apr 2016 #92

Lol. I'm not sure what I was unclear about La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #114

What obsession? You seem to take issue with people exercising their right Press Virginia Apr 2016 #119

i take issue with people fetishizing guns and worshiping a version of the second amendment La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #125

How many versions of the second amendment are there? And what constitutes Press Virginia Apr 2016 #127

there is a version gun fetishists read and there is a version that RBG and I read La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #156

Does the one you prefer say anyone other than Press Virginia Apr 2016 #165

You take issue with people fetishizing guns sarisataka Apr 2016 #157

no. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #158

So actually you don't sarisataka Apr 2016 #159

But ... But ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #59

wonder how quickly we would see a shift in gun attitudes if BLM advocated that all black men start La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #126

The Black Panthers lancer78 Apr 2016 #141

"the Mulford Act." CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #150

It is amazing sarisataka Apr 2016 #161

Don't forget bushes no fly list. N/T beevul Apr 2016 #164

Care to explain that Sir? DashOneBravo Apr 2016 #129

Have you ever actually seen people do this??? (the rifle photo) CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #73

There are well over 300,000,000 firearms in our nation without this technology. ... spin Apr 2016 #176

But wait houston16revival Apr 2016 #7

It will help save enough people from being killed by toddlers Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #13

If it only saved one person then the program Press Virginia Apr 2016 #29

More of a success than doing nothing in the direction of smart guns. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #32

Teaching children about guns would do more Press Virginia Apr 2016 #33

Then go do that too. But not if it is just a propaganda ploy to get them into the cult. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #37

If it saves just one life why would you care if the education Press Virginia Apr 2016 #38

I wouldn't care. I'd be glad it saved a life. Read my post carefully this time. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #40

Then what "cult" are you referencing Press Virginia Apr 2016 #46

It's not a cult... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #50

I know. Press Virginia Apr 2016 #52

. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #60

Those are gun owners Press Virginia Apr 2016 #61

Ridiculously excessively exercising their rights. Which makes it a cult. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #64

How does one "excessively" exercise a right? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #70

Reply to post #63 which is more reasonable than those cultists. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #100

I didn't ask him what his opinion of your statement was Press Virginia Apr 2016 #104

You just like to argue. His reply to me refuted your argument. Go refute his argument. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #106

His reply wasn't relevant to the question I asked you about your statement Press Virginia Apr 2016 #110

This gun owner thinks they are douche bags DashOneBravo Apr 2016 #130

They may be douche bags. They may just be guys who are making a political Press Virginia Apr 2016 #131

Both have single point slings DashOneBravo Apr 2016 #134

They're posing for a picture. Exercising the right to carry their guns in public Press Virginia Apr 2016 #136

The Open Carry movement in the United States... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #63

A lot of that goes back to Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #147

I am sure the "gun safety organizations" are Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #71

Smart gun technology is not just about children using guns Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #43

Only if people were forced to buy them Press Virginia Apr 2016 #47

Sure.... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #51

They have big plans...big, silly plans Press Virginia Apr 2016 #54

Oh, yeah, binary thinking strikes again. The perfect is the enemy of the good Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #62

You just confirmed the argument Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #75

Nonsense. It does not take away the choice/right of purchasing a usable or even useful gun. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #80

Takes away my choice of the most Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #90

Ridiculous. That is like saying anti-lock brakes take away your choice Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #103

That anti lock brakes Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #107

Wrong. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #112

Never heard, post some links Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #148

It's not illogical. Given the option to buy a proven technology with a long record Press Virginia Apr 2016 #82

The number really aren't there... EX500rider Apr 2016 #163

Smart gun technology is not just about children using guns Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #168

So what is it about? EX500rider Apr 2016 #187

Read the thread, sigh. Your issue has been dealt with extensively. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #188

I have read the thread.. EX500rider May 2016 #195

It's no news you don't see the point. Reread the thread and try discussing the points Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #198

We are not taking your guns away!!! ( we know you're on the way) yallerdawg Apr 2016 #8

These type of guns have sounded cool in scifi but cstanleytech Apr 2016 #9

How? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #14

Exactly, we don't have to achieve 100% immediately. 1% is an improvement. Hoyt Apr 2016 #17

We've had improvement of more than 1% Press Virginia Apr 2016 #31

Well Doh, now why didnt I think of that its so simple!!!! cstanleytech Apr 2016 #53

The concept is simple. Implementation is hard, of course. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #79

It is not bogus it is a valid problem and one that will be extremely difficult to overcome. nt cstanleytech Apr 2016 #85

The perfect is the enemy of the good. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #109

By all means, make them Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #91

Requiring properly developed smart guns be the only guns for sale does not infringe rights. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #98

K & R SunSeeker Apr 2016 #10

And if you are really progressive, you should put your weight behind the President on this. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #11

Unless you're familiar with the technology in its current state. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #24

A truly smart gun could be fired by more than one person Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #12

Now this is the right direction for ending gun violence. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #15

I had a laptop... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #49

I can believe that. There could be exceptions -- other biological traits that could be JDPriestly Apr 2016 #121

How do you power it? Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #124

That will have to be determined by its inventors. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #132

"How do you power it?" CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #151

Most fireams deaths Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #77

Suicides probably can't be stopped through any kind of gun regulation. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #120

"But this would help prevent accidental gun deaths" Of which there are so few in reality.. EX500rider Apr 2016 #154

Please don't let facts Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #155

Does that mean that the gun will be able to improve the intelligence of the gun owner? LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #19

It's a fine idea; just not an imminent one whatthehey Apr 2016 #25

If the police and military adopt the tech, then I'll be in line to buy one NickB79 Apr 2016 #26

I think it could be a selling point. hollowdweller Apr 2016 #28

LOL, this will have paranoid gun humpers foaming at the mouth Skittles Apr 2016 #36

'Paranoid gun humpers...' CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #41

if they are against all forms of gun control Skittles Apr 2016 #44

'Against all forms of gun control' CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #48

LOL, please Skittles Apr 2016 #55

There are places in the great nation... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #57

And just who is that? Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #78

Issue them to every FBI agent, and police officer, they can test them for 5 years Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #58

A sensor that prevents them from firing... scscholar Apr 2016 #88

Would that work if you wear a shirt or coat? Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #93

Set it to auto shoot the nearest heat source. Be sure police get a program to lock & track all guns. Sunlei Apr 2016 #122

I don't understand sarisataka Apr 2016 #123

No.... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #191

I'm jumping in this late... mark67 Apr 2016 #143

I am wondering... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #152

I posted this in another thread... mark67 Apr 2016 #160

There is a recent sarisataka Apr 2016 #162

I have trained on the Glock CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #170

I like the way Obama has drawn a line in the sand JoFerret May 2016 #192