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79. But they are free to not abide by those rules

Fri May 6, 2016, 03:50 PM

May 2016

if the males in their life say they don't have to. What ever happened to individuals freedoms to decide how their wives and daughters live? We never criticize christians when they do this sort of stuff, and christians are like a bazillion times worse. If these women don't like it, then why don't they just pack up and leave? It's not much different than someone who has a minimum wage job. If they want to make more money, then why don't they just move to a new place and get higher paying job? It's not like it's difficult to do or anything. Or how about women who are in an abusive relationship but refuse to pack up and leave? I mean, come on... They are to blame for their abuse, because they could totally just leave if they wanted to. So yeah, these muslim women are not being forced to do an anything, because the could choose not to at any time.

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UK mosques ask women to shun Facebook, trousers: Report [View all] MariaThinks May 2016 OP

At first I was skeptical, but Ilsa May 2016 #1

Consider the source. Bad Dog May 2016 #3

reporting facts makes someone an islamophobe. I'm not actually. MariaThinks May 2016 #5

You don't report facts. Bad Dog May 2016 #7

that's very racist for you to call the Times of India a dubious source. Do you have proof? MariaThinks May 2016 #12

So do you agree that the women should get off the net and put some pants on....or not snooper2 May 2016 #58

They will protect that leftynyc May 2016 #19

thank you. MariaThinks May 2016 #24

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times_of_India MariaThinks May 2016 #71

Yr pretty quick to play the 'you're a bigot!' card... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #128

where is your proof that its a RW rag? It has a long rich history and there is no evidence that MariaThinks May 2016 #141

You appear to have an aversion to answering questions... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #142

your writing makes no sense. MariaThinks May 2016 #146

Damn. I was expecting the 'you answer my question first!' response... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #151

Don't be intimidated by the bully tactics of some of these posters King_David May 2016 #155

thanks. i continue to just tell the truth. the bullies try everything MariaThinks May 2016 #161

Yeah, I couldn't make sense of that rant either. smirkymonkey May 2016 #162

If you can't comprehend what someone writes Violet_Crumble May 2016 #163

completetly unintelligeable rant. tying the Times of India to misogynistic practices in that country MariaThinks May 2016 #147

I strongly suspect the issue is a lack of reading comprehension on yr part... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #150

from the same wikipedia page - some muslims in english mosques don't consider him a muslim MariaThinks May 2016 #74

So what. Bad Dog May 2016 #90

No Christian denominations consider Mormonism a Chistian denomination, they all recognize braddy May 2016 #127

Pretty much everyone over here classes the Mormons as Christians. Bad Dog May 2016 #130

No they don't, most people here who know about religion knows that Mormonism is a braddy May 2016 #139

Typical American arrogance. Bad Dog May 2016 #164

LOL, what are you talking about? braddy May 2016 #168

I'm talking about you claiming to know more about British attitudes than me. Bad Dog May 2016 #182

I don't care about British attitudes, I said Christian denominations, and they do not accept braddy May 2016 #183

In Britain most people view Mormons as Christians. Bad Dog May 2016 #185

Actually my post that you responded to was quote, braddy May 2016 #187

That's not was said at all. Bad Dog May 2016 #190

You keep posting the same nonsense over and over. The British church denominations whether braddy May 2016 #192

Yes they do. Bad Dog May 2016 #194

LOL, you have no idea what you are talking about. braddy May 2016 #196

Answer the question. Bad Dog May 2016 #197

I know their official church positions, why are you posting this repetitive argumentative nonsense? braddy May 2016 #198

Pretty much every priest I've spoken too considers them Christians. Bad Dog May 2016 #200

Spend a lot of time talking to Priests about Mormonism do you? And the priests that you talk to braddy May 2016 #201

We talk about all sorts. Bad Dog May 2016 #202

Wow, I really admire your composure. smirkymonkey May 2016 #203

Thanks, look at his sign up date and his other posts, this is what he does. Looking at the exchange braddy May 2016 #204

And how worried was Romney GulfCoast66 May 2016 #140

Not as frightened as a gay man in Christian Uganda. Bad Dog May 2016 #165

You make my point for me GulfCoast66 May 2016 #169

I don't need to. Bad Dog May 2016 #170

I do not know GulfCoast66 May 2016 #171

You may well be right. Bad Dog May 2016 #172

that's not the way this works MariaThinks May 2016 #8

I don't understand your reply to me. Ilsa May 2016 #18

Sorry - i meant to say that you are right, unfortunately MariaThinks May 2016 #25

Try saying "happy holidays" to a fundamentalist Christian jmowreader May 2016 #35

more Christians are willing to say happy eid than muslims are to say 'Merry Christmas' MariaThinks May 2016 #43

Not all Christians are fundies. Ilsa May 2016 #48

i agree MariaThinks May 2016 #52

Doesn't say in the article treestar May 2016 #51

And I wonder what the men will do to Ilsa May 2016 #56

They live in the UK treestar May 2016 #60

Right, neither are honor killings or child marriages, but smirkymonkey May 2016 #69

FGM isn't permitted, either, but many girls in the UK still go through that horror TexasMommaWithAHat May 2016 #103

Remember the friendly, well-liked muslim man who wished people "Happy Easter" Quantess May 2016 #125

.+1 840high May 2016 #116

Not sure what the problem is philosslayer May 2016 #2

The problem is Bad Dog May 2016 #4

it's called facts. Asking me to change my culture because its considered evil in sharia is prejudice MariaThinks May 2016 #6

No it's not. Bad Dog May 2016 #10

others see what you're doing. Don't be fooled. MariaThinks May 2016 #13

Don't worry leftynyc May 2016 #20

thank you. And i am really NOT a hater. I've been very progressive and accepting MariaThinks May 2016 #22

If this Pew poll didn't leftynyc May 2016 #29

And you'll find me right there with you. christx30 May 2016 #30

You are a wonderful father leftynyc May 2016 #33

Thank you. christx30 May 2016 #36

That's awesome leftynyc May 2016 #38

Your father sounds like a great man. MariaThinks May 2016 #44

He was leftynyc May 2016 #47

thank you for sharing. MariaThinks May 2016 #49

I told all my girls TexasMommaWithAHat May 2016 #104

So do some other women treestar May 2016 #53

It also doesn't mean leftynyc May 2016 #57

That's why you've had two posts hidden. Bad Dog May 2016 #40

there is no logic to that statement. MariaThinks May 2016 #70

There is. Bad Dog May 2016 #88

what a stupid thing to say. MariaThinks May 2016 #154

You've cornered the market in stupid things. Bad Dog May 2016 #167

you don't answer a question - just more innuendo MariaThinks May 2016 #68

You didn't ask a question. Bad Dog May 2016 #131

You are wrong. 840high May 2016 #118

I never once imagined MariaThinks was the only Islamophobe on DU. Bad Dog May 2016 #132

what an infantile uneducated argument to call someone an islamophobe without addressing MariaThinks May 2016 #153

They're not proper questions. Bad Dog May 2016 #166

keep apologizing for the terrorists MariaThinks May 2016 #173

Not all Moslems are terrorists. Bad Dog May 2016 #174

but how many terrorists are muslims? MariaThinks May 2016 #175

You Americans were quite relaxed about funding terrorism yourselves Bad Dog May 2016 #176

you blame the victims? And you blame us for being attacked on 911? MariaThinks May 2016 #178

No, just pointing out the difference between your relaxed attitude to NI terrorism and the hysteria Bad Dog May 2016 #179

You should try checking your facts. Bad Dog May 2016 #177

the investigation is ongoing and if, like before despite denials it turns out to be a MariaThinks May 2016 #180

It is ongoing. Bad Dog May 2016 #181

speaking the truth does not push people to radicalism. Ignoring them and being afraid or stupid MariaThinks May 2016 #184

You don't speak the truth, you distort it. Bad Dog May 2016 #186

and what do you post that is truthfully negative? MariaThinks May 2016 #188

There are shootings by white Americans every day. Bad Dog May 2016 #191

They are not supported by the official religion they follow. Clearly you are not interested in the MariaThinks May 2016 #193

They follow the religion of the 2nd Amendment Bad Dog May 2016 #195

There's several words you appear to not understand the meaning of... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #199

Your culture? Are you a Muslim? Or a migrant from Pakistan to the UK? (nt) muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #62

Who the fuck is asking you to change anything? a la izquierda May 2016 #152

Yes, i've seen a lot of that here philosslayer May 2016 #9

calling the Times of India questionable is racist and bigotted. Do you have any proof of your MariaThinks May 2016 #15

notice that there is no response - anyone calling the Times of India questionale is racist towards MariaThinks May 2016 #50

No, the source is "The Times" in the UK - owned by Rupert Murdoch muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #64

The Times of India would not have repeated it if it was not true MariaThinks May 2016 #67

LOL! Is this the first time you've read the media? muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #75

because southern baptists aren't blowing themselves up and killing thousands of people every month. MariaThinks May 2016 #76

And these mosques aren't "blowing themselves up and killing thousands of people every month" muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #77

i'm doing no such thing at all. And posting stories of events is what breaking news is about MariaThinks May 2016 #80

It's been going on for over a thousand years. It's not 'breaking news' muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #81

this event at Mosques happened recently. MariaThinks May 2016 #95

Maybe she didn't put up those stories about Ilsa May 2016 #93

or being stoned to death because she let a man see her elbow MariaThinks May 2016 #96

I live around southern Baptists TexasMommaWithAHat May 2016 #105

some of us actually understand what islam is about. We are not sheep. you deal with that. MariaThinks May 2016 #16

Don't you see that this sort of attitude breeds islamaphobia? philosslayer May 2016 #32

Sorry leftynyc May 2016 #34

fearing a culture where members become more violent as they get deeper into the faith MariaThinks May 2016 #46

Oh please. romanic May 2016 #115

+1000 smirkymonkey May 2016 #134

I used to teach in a very diverse boy's school. Bad Dog May 2016 #41

+1. Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees that. closeupready May 2016 #92

Thanks. Bad Dog May 2016 #102

What's your problem? King_David May 2016 #114

You mean the MEN are free to practice their religion as they see fit. smirkymonkey May 2016 #11

exactly MariaThinks May 2016 #14

Apparently the WOMAN leftynyc May 2016 #17

Precisely -- "Stop" this and "delete" that, and Ilsa May 2016 #21

There are too many apologists for this crap on DU. smirkymonkey May 2016 #23

or even members of the faith MariaThinks May 2016 #45

But calling it out leftynyc May 2016 #26

But they are free to not abide by those rules PersonNumber503602 May 2016 #79

Yep, you got it. nt Ilsa May 2016 #82

"Individuals' freedom to decide how their wives and daughters live?" smirkymonkey May 2016 #110

Do you have any idea how culturally imperialistic is to say that females are not property of their PersonNumber503602 May 2016 #121

OK, get it. smirkymonkey May 2016 #135

Sure they can treestar May 2016 #54

There is nothing he can do leftynyc May 2016 #59

Exactly! Like the UK legal system is going to smirkymonkey May 2016 #72

"there is nothing he can do about it" awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #85

I think a lot of people here are both. TexasMommaWithAHat May 2016 #107

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #84

How do YOU know the women object? philosslayer May 2016 #117

Right, that always works out so well for the women. smirkymonkey May 2016 #136

My wife had this friend here in Austin. christx30 May 2016 #159

If the Incas were still around christx30 May 2016 #28

that's an excellent questions. MariaThinks May 2016 #42

If they were on their own turf they treestar May 2016 #55

They could get away with it, christx30 May 2016 #89

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey May 2016 #108

"practicing human sacrifice as part of their religion/culture" Jesus Malverde May 2016 #156

Oh I completely agree with you. christx30 May 2016 #157

We can thank the Saudi's that the term "beheading" is part of our modern lexicon. Jesus Malverde May 2016 #158

Fun fact: christx30 May 2016 #160

I'm not Muslim, British, or a woman TlalocW May 2016 #27

Even these ones? Bad Dog May 2016 #100

The such a lovely culture. iandhr May 2016 #31

Fuck the "Prophet" (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #37

Every prophet. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready May 2016 #39

Since people are asking for a British source for this story csziggy May 2016 #61

They didn't REALLY leftynyc May 2016 #63

I know - but it removes a source of complaint csziggy May 2016 #65

True enough leftynyc May 2016 #66

I agree - we need to talk about the regressive things some do csziggy May 2016 #73

Media does't report this stuff because they don't want to upset TexasMommaWithAHat May 2016 #111

The Telegraph is just as right wing as Murdoch's Times muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #78

While I'm sure you'll find reason leftynyc May 2016 #86

The Independent is the only one that isn't right wing muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #91

Unbelievable leftynyc May 2016 #94

it's the way that the islamic apologists deflect criticism that is valid MariaThinks May 2016 #98

Well, yes, that's the point - the story doesn't mention them muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #101

Because left wing papers such as the Guardian and others INTENTIONALLY smirkymonkey May 2016 #112

Much of the media simply doesn't report anything that TexasMommaWithAHat May 2016 #113

so any tragedy reported in a right wing newspaper doesn't exist to your mind. MariaThinks May 2016 #99

Here are plenty of other sources - and I don't track British newspapers csziggy May 2016 #129

good point. There are no words of outrage at what's HAPPENING. they are only MariaThinks May 2016 #97

Exactly! How anyone can defend this shit and still call themselves smirkymonkey May 2016 #109

It's called tolerance. And diversity philosslayer May 2016 #120

Public service announcements on TV, christx30 May 2016 #122

Do those exist now? philosslayer May 2016 #123

I'm proposing them. christx30 May 2016 #124

Only the male, straight adherents don't object. smirkymonkey May 2016 #137

You love to complain philosslayer May 2016 #119

so guys can't wear trousers around them? Doesn't it get chilly in Britain? yurbud May 2016 #83

Facebook Trousers - are women wearing these? BadGimp May 2016 #106

sexist trash Skittles May 2016 #126

Many on DU strongly support sexism as long as it isn't coming from Christians Democat May 2016 #133

You said it! smirkymonkey May 2016 #138

and many disruptors are already sexist and hold extreme right wing positions tenderfoot May 2016 #189

Control, submission, assimilation. ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #143

The actual document cited was posted on the Croydon mosque website oberliner May 2016 #144

thanks. The source is obviously accurate. I won't expect any retractions MariaThinks May 2016 #145

Author is Muhammad Yusuf Danka oberliner May 2016 #148

i tried to read some of the links to see what they preach but the links are broken MariaThinks May 2016 #149