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RogerM

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Wed May 11, 2016, 10:25 AM May 2016

Trump vows not to release taxes [View all]

Source: CBS Marketwatch

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Tuesday said he won’t release his tax returns, saying there is “nothing to learn from them.”

Read: Trump says he will be first candidate since 1976 not to release tax returns

Tax specialists, however, disagree.

There’s no legal requirement for a presidential candidate to make his or her tax returns public but every major party nominee since 1976 has done so — often well before winning the nomination. The likely Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, has posted 8 years of returns.

Trump boasts that he pays as little in taxes as possible but he’s not showing, or telling, the voters exactly how he does that.

So what could Trump be worried about revealing?

If Trump releases all the detailed schedules, the tax returns could provide information about his use, if any, of tax avoidance strategies including offshore companies and foreign bank accounts in countries that guarantee secrecy. Trump’s name, however, does not come up in the searchable database of the Panama Papers, the name given to the trove of documents taken from a Panamanian law firm that was publicly released.

ack Blum, a former staff attorney with the Senate Antitrust Subcommittee and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee who now leads the not-for-profit Tax Justice Network USA, says there are a number of things Trump’s tax returns can show voters that campaign disclosure forms, filed in July 2015, cannot.

“Without question a man involved in as many real estate deals as Donald Trump will have taken full advantages of all the real estate loopholes and tax benefits,” said Blum. “His tax returns will show us how far he pushed the envelope to turn ordinary income into capital gains, defer the payment of tax through ‘like-kind exchanges’ and otherwise create an impenetrable maze for IRS auditors.”

The campaign disclosure forms also provide a range of values for Trump’s various intangible assets that generate an estimated $131.25 million in income for lending his name to hotel and condo developments and products including cologne, mattresses, steaks and energy drinks. Trump’s tax returns could verify the licensing and royalty income he put on his disclosure forms and that he provided to Forbes for its recent 400 richest Americans list.

Trump says his personal brand is worth almost $3.3 billion. Forbes, in its most recent 400 richest Americans list, put a value of the assets that generate royalty and licensing income at approximately $375 million. The magazine says it does not give anyone credit for goodwill associated with their name. Forbes’ editors believe the net worth of rich Americans will already incorporate any value derived from their names. After Forbes spoke with 20 brand experts, anonymously, none of them agreed with Trump’s $3 billion figure. However, none of them thought his brand was worthless, either.

Trump’s tax returns would also provide plenty of information about revenue and expense items that were not on the campaign disclosure forms, including personal mortgages, charitable deductions, unusual tax credits, foreign investments including bank accounts in tax havens, and an overall federal tax rate.

For example, the line on the return associated with Trump’s real estate income could be confusing to non-experts, says Andrew Schmidt, a professor of accounting and tax at North Carolina State University. “Trump’s real estate activities likely generate substantial tax deductions: depreciation, interest, and many other legitimate expenses. That means the amount reported on his return for those activities will look lower than most voters expect,” said Schmidt. “In fact, Trump may even report a tax loss for many of his real estate activities. His supporters may unwittingly equate tax losses with financial reporting losses and question Trump’s overall business acumen, especially if some of Trump’s more prominent properties generate tax losses.”

One asset Trump wasn’t interested in arguing with Forbes about was cash. The Trump team told Forbes to use whatever figure they wanted, perhaps to avoid any discussion of whether he has accounts in Switzerland or other banking secrecy havens.

Read more: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/just-what-controversies-could-trumps-tax-returns-expose-2016-03-21

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A. Not worth as much as he says. B. Hiding that he doesn't support his own charities. underpants May 2016 #1
Scared little coward.n/t jtuck004 May 2016 #2
Man-Baby blm May 2016 #3
man -baby with hands --------------Jon Stewart turbinetree May 2016 #8
That reminded me of a scene from Deadpool lol NWCorona May 2016 #12
Well I don't know if drumpf has healing powers yet----------------but he has man-baby hands turbinetree May 2016 #31
So has Bernie released his 2015 taxes yet? Andy823 May 2016 #15
Since you're off on a tangent, how about Sec. Clinton's Wall Street speech transcripts? n/t xocet May 2016 #29
Tangent? Really? Andy823 May 2016 #41
So, a simple question - by your logic: Why the double standard for Sec. Clinton? The issue xocet May 2016 #42
The people who care about seeing his tax returns aren't going to vote for him anyway. thesquanderer May 2016 #4
Yep PatSeg May 2016 #7
Not releasing his taxes furthers his image as being "outside the system" LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2016 #38
Given that it's Trump Angel Martin May 2016 #5
Well then PatSeg May 2016 #6
It's obvious that he's corrupt, why should he prove it? .. NT vkkv May 2016 #9
This won't go away Va Lefty May 2016 #10
tRump showing us his tax returns would be like his showing us his micro penis - Kip Humphrey May 2016 #11
How'd that go for Romney? joshcryer May 2016 #13
Because not releasing his tax returns worked out so well for Mitt Romney. marble falls May 2016 #14
Trump plays the media like a stradivarius Geronimoe May 2016 #16
and I'm sure his drool stained supporters.... dhill926 May 2016 #17
Just a politician that does not want the world to know how much he has lied about what he makes. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #18
Trumps hiding something Shankapotomus May 2016 #19
That makes two candidates that haven't or won't release their tax returns. Only Clinton has done so. George II May 2016 #20
This argument won't work as long as Hillary holds on to her wall street speeches ciaobaby May 2016 #26
Since you're off on a tangent, how about Sec. Clinton's Wall Street speech transcripts? n/t xocet May 2016 #30
Is there a long-standing tradition of releasing speech transcripts? nt Codeine May 2016 #40
I bet he pays a much lower rate than those blue collars ditto heads who voted for him. Jitter65 May 2016 #21
Ahh, that's a big Achilles heel Bayard May 2016 #22
Trump is very vulnerable on this issue, even with his base, which why he won't release. . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #23
Very Sanders like dbackjon May 2016 #24
Do Sec. Clinton's Wall Street speech transcripts ring a bell with you? n/t xocet May 2016 #32
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #33
It is ironic that you demean another's ability to think with a misspelled message of your own. n/t xocet May 2016 #39
and how is this any different from Hillary refusing to release her wall street speeches! ciaobaby May 2016 #25
LOL - if you think these are the same, then you really, really are clueless. dbackjon May 2016 #34
I'll take this to mean you don't have an answer..... ciaobaby May 2016 #37
He must be hammered on this all the time.... beachbumbob May 2016 #27
Trumps probably scared like Romney, to show how he uses deductions to pay NO income tax. Sunlei May 2016 #28
I'll give him credit for one thing... dchill May 2016 #35
If I was a crook the caliber of Dirty Donald, I wouldn't release mine either. olddad56 May 2016 #36
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