Latest Breaking News
In reply to the discussion: Venezuela says building drones with Iran's help [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)Once they have the USA stamp on them, it'll all be good and righteous again. It's just about who is getting a profit from the business, it's a competition for the world's market share. That's one angle to regard these media blurbs as promoting.
In investigating Bush, etc., countries don't try their own presidents. Their only punishment internally is to be voted out in elections. It takes other countries to do the judging on the scale that people want for Bush, etc. The Nuremberg tribunals were not set up by the Nazis, but a conquering army. If Hugo could invade the USA and had the country cowering at his feet, he might try Bush and Cheney and the rest. None of these things are done voluntarily as long as there is a standing government or army in place.
But let's get back to drones. Drones are popular. Greenpeace was cheered when it used a drone to follow the Japanese whaling fleet to Antartica; Tim Pool who covers OWS using Twitter and livestream to create his Timcast channel, built his own drone to follow the action in NYC during the demonstrations, but hasn't perfected it yet, and probably wouldn't be legal in crowed NYC airspace.
Everyone can make one, and they are less costly than a manned flight dropping bombs. The intention is to kill someone cheaper than an army trooper, air force pilot, or a missile with a payload.
The intention is death. It doesn't matter how it is delivered. People who perfect their skills in games can perform the killing with no danger to themselves by wireless communication a continent away, just as satellites send images around the globe to show a world leader where that next bomb is going.
That's the world we are eager to live in, or else we wouldn't be doing it in our 'peacetime' activities. A lof of human ingenuity goes into all this stuff.
I don't say I approve of any of it, I'm just describing how this evolved. Mankind embraced killing at a distance a long time ago. It's all a matter of perspective whether it's a threat or a crime or not.
Here we stand on this planet and make use of our lives and our time, wisely or not we don't know. The choice is ours. If we believe the choice has been taken from us and say the responsibility is not ours, we will have to re-assess who and what we are in relation to each other.
Not offense is being made to any on any side of these arguments. Just some observations to employ if you want.