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7. Words have meaning, especially in a legal context.

Thu May 19, 2016, 02:56 PM

May 2016

in the eyes of the law, she is not a whistle blower because she did not take advantage of any of the legal avenues available to her. She could have revealed those war crimes without putting herself into legal jeopardy. Instead she listen to Julian Assange and got fucked.

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Chelsea Manning files appeal against 'grossly unfair' 35-year prison sentence [View all] brooklynite May 2016 OP

She was not a whistle blower. hack89 May 2016 #1

Reporters Without Borders disagrees with you. Stryst May 2016 #6

Words have meaning, especially in a legal context. hack89 May 2016 #7

Sounds like a pretext. forest444 May 2016 #8

Laws are not pretexts hack89 May 2016 #9

No...it's actual law. Had Manning gone to Sanders or Kucinich, she would have been bulletproof. nt msanthrope May 2016 #12

Instead of reporting it, he released it. Drahthaardogs May 2016 #44

Like releasing it to WaPo or WSJ would have resulted in "real" investigative journalism. laserhaas May 2016 #56

A security clearance is no joke. Drahthaardogs May 2016 #57

Neither is cover up of mass murder by chicken chit ships in the sky.... laserhaas May 2016 #59

Exactly. nt msanthrope May 2016 #66

are you suggesting that ONLY those already with legal protection in US are whistleblowers? cloudythescribbler May 2016 #16

I blame Assange hack89 May 2016 #19

Never too late. secondwind May 2016 #2

Well anyone convicted under the UCMJ gets 2 automatic appeals NobodyHere May 2016 #3

Chelsea's just trying to get into the news... Blue_Tires May 2016 #4

I wouldnt be willing to wager any money on this appeal working. cstanleytech May 2016 #5

Seems like a lot of BS to me. Yo_Mama May 2016 #10

Chelsea is a political prisoner. Agony May 2016 #11

Disgruntled worker and piss poor criminal maybe... TipTok May 2016 #18

No....appeals are never too late. I actually think this was a very harsh sentence. nt msanthrope May 2016 #13

+1 joshcryer May 2016 #49

Sentanced too harshly? The Rosenbergs might disagree. FLPanhandle May 2016 #14

Oh, you mean exposing criminal wrongdoing is like the Rosenburgs? askeptic May 2016 #21

Sorry Chelsea, Bradly dis the crime calguy May 2016 #15

What an ass... TipTok May 2016 #17

sensitive information?...like....crimes? askeptic May 2016 #22

Couple of things... TipTok May 2016 #23

1) Thanks for pointing out the flaws in our justice system Ash_F May 2016 #25

Was there a point? TipTok May 2016 #26

See post #24 Ash_F May 2016 #29

More deflection... TipTok May 2016 #31

Chelsea Manning is a hero for exposing these and other crimes. Ash_F May 2016 #37

Feel free to address the points made.... TipTok May 2016 #38

You don't think exposing child sex trafficking is heroic? Ash_F May 2016 #40

If that was all he had exposed... TipTok May 2016 #41

Crimes were exposed. Whether they remain to be prosecuted is irrelevent askeptic May 2016 #27

The point stands... TipTok May 2016 #28

yep - mine too. The private gets years and the General gets probation askeptic May 2016 #30

Intent plays a large role in our legal system... TipTok May 2016 #32

re-read my post. He knew what he was doing. Contradicting yourself askeptic May 2016 #33

I probably shouldn't get into this, BUT MH1 May 2016 #35

I hear ya, but Gates himself said it was not a disastrous breach askeptic May 2016 #36

Why would you think those choices... TipTok May 2016 #43

sentenced to decades in prison for the crime of disclosing truthful information to the public? askeptic May 2016 #20

Manning exposed child sex trafficking by a Virginia based private military contractor Ash_F May 2016 #24

Manning could be paroled in 2021. Release before then seems unlikely. struggle4progress May 2016 #34

All that matters here ..is intent...all the naysayers tech objects laserhaas May 2016 #39

So... TipTok May 2016 #42

Now it is.....Im a whistleblower for 15 years laserhaas May 2016 #45

There are few guarantees in life... TipTok May 2016 #46

Like the war crimes Manning exposed? Octafish May 2016 #47

You'll have to be more specific... TipTok May 2016 #48

Specifics... Octafish May 2016 #50

This Apache video? TipTok May 2016 #51

Mass murder as comedy. Octafish May 2016 #52

You are in your country, surrounded by invaders, revolutionaries and worse; but your guns are a laserhaas May 2016 #55

Do you ever address points made? TipTok May 2016 #58

Do I have to explain everything to you? I don't like those who find mass murder funny. Octafish May 2016 #61

You could start by explaining something... TipTok May 2016 #62

Well stated ^^^^ this - times 1000^^^^ laserhaas May 2016 #54

If they were "innocent civilians" the reporters wouldn't have embedded with them. EX500rider May 2016 #60

Weird seeing hatred for the press on a Democratic site. Octafish May 2016 #64

No hated of anything...but embedding with insurgents in a war zone is inherently dangerous.. EX500rider May 2016 #65

Exactly - 'Octafish' - when is ANY whistleblowing justified, if it is not okay to do so, when murder laserhaas May 2016 #53

The sentence is excessive Benitos May 2016 #63