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Xithras

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25. Generally true.

Thu May 19, 2016, 04:58 PM

May 2016

My wife is Osage, as are my kids. I have yet to meet anyone in her family that even remotely cared about the issue. Most Native Americans will tell you that they have far bigger concerns than whether or not a sports team uses an insulting name. My mother-in-law, a longtime activist who participated in the occupation of Alcatraz, once called it a "typical white distraction". She said that white people occupy themselves with stupid shit like this so we don't have to confront the real issues. It makes white people feel like they're doing "something" to help the Native Americans, without actually requiring them to do anything of substance.

Don't get me wrong, there certainly ARE some Native Americans who really do care about the issue, but most have bigger fish to fry.

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New poll finds 9 in 10 Native Americans aren�t offended by Redskins name title [View all] philosslayer May 2016 OP

I have a few questions about how they conducted the poll Major Nikon May 2016 #1

If it was truly a random poll and if they didnt cherry pick the people polled cstanleytech May 2016 #3

What you describe isn't a truly random poll Major Nikon May 2016 #7

I didnt describe how they conducted it rather I am asking whats wrong with the numbers cstanleytech May 2016 #10

How is is possible to select any region where 44% of the population is a tribe member? Major Nikon May 2016 #12

Ok, I only had 3 hours of sleep last night so explain to me whats wrong with them doing 504 of them? cstanleytech May 2016 #15

First of all how they went about identification is very telling Major Nikon May 2016 #17

Is that 44% from this link cstanleytech May 2016 #18

Plus elljay May 2016 #30

It took 5 months to identify 504 respondents. Gormy Cuss May 2016 #58

"Method." Methodology is the study of methods. :) nt MadDAsHell May 2016 #20

... Major Nikon May 2016 #28

In many of the rural areas of Arizona that have large Native American Populations ThoughtCriminal May 2016 #22

Land lines work just fine in those areas. -none May 2016 #51

Actually, no. ThoughtCriminal May 2016 #65

the poll was of Native American adults Enrique May 2016 #31

It is total bullshit. They didnt confirm they were talking to AI Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #76

No surprise this is posted. blm May 2016 #2

Did the poll go something like this? iandhr May 2016 #4

I never really thought it mattered much to most 7962 May 2016 #5

It should be changed if for no other reason than to end the fiction of a Redskins/Cowboys rivalry Recursion May 2016 #6

I never knew until a few years ago that Dallas was in the Eastern Division. C Moon May 2016 #8

It was a payoff to then-Redskins owner (and vicious racist) George Preston Marshall Recursion May 2016 #9

Ah. I see. Thank you! C Moon May 2016 #13

Not what the Wiki says on this subject ... brett_jv May 2016 #80

Redskins. Grotesque in every sense of the word. Sunlei May 2016 #11

Look at the name of the sheriff: Mendocino May 2016 #14

As a Skins fan I'm offended at this poll. ileus May 2016 #16

Interesting but not shocking. We as Americans love taking personal offense to words/phrases/etc... MadDAsHell May 2016 #19

Glad I'm not the only one with that theory. n/t shrike May 2016 #66

9 of 10 Native Americans not offended by racist name. Iggo May 2016 #21

yes... dhill926 May 2016 #24

Not if the people targeted think it is not. -none May 2016 #52

Don't know what to make of it. The name embarrasses me. And I'm white. marble falls May 2016 #23

Generally true. Xithras May 2016 #25

I've talked to Native Americans who don't even mind being called Indians shrike May 2016 #68

Why is brown, white, and black ok to describe people but red is not? Akicita May 2016 #26

Brown, white, black and yellow people Mike__M May 2016 #33

What does that have anything to do with how we people refer to each other? Akicita May 2016 #37

It's just another facet of the discrepancy Mike__M May 2016 #42

Why not respect her feelings and not try to argue about it with her? It's personal, Judi Lynn May 2016 #43

I didn't argue with her at all. I was just trying to understand why she was upset and asked her why Akicita May 2016 #46

If you seriously do not know why "Jap" is offensive Gormy Cuss May 2016 #59

That was a long time ago. The British people, dare I say Brits, were our hated enemies in two wars. Akicita May 2016 #61

That won't cover you, as you know. "Jap" is evil, and we all know it, to show hatred, a put down. Judi Lynn May 2016 #69

I understand that many people think the word is offensive. My question is why? It's just short for Akicita May 2016 #72

Not the "redskins" I know! HassleCat May 2016 #27

Since they represent Washington they should change the name to "Sleazebags." n/t Judi Lynn May 2016 #44

Bullshit, WaPo. Zen Democrat May 2016 #29

Very very close to my reaction which was Mike__M May 2016 #34

Not surprised. romanic May 2016 #32

A poll showing Mike__M May 2016 #35

Stop bothering people with "polls" and change the damned name. It's the only right thing to do. Judi Lynn May 2016 #36

Daniel Snyder must have paid for this poll... Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #38

And bought himself 400 Tracfones (n/t) Mike__M May 2016 #39

504 Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #41

the probably asked 500 people from India olddad56 May 2016 #40

redskins. is. a. RACIST. name. guntotin librul May 2016 #45

My Lakotah friends say it's ok. Me, the wasicu, doesn't like it. Welcome to DU uppityperson May 2016 #47

with all due respect to you...I really doubt that... guntotin librul May 2016 #48

I was surprised, seriously. Their younger grandkids were against it though. uppityperson May 2016 #49

How about if we stop using pejorative nicknames for everybody because we think it's catchy. nt bemildred May 2016 #50

Then we would not be able to talk to each other. -none May 2016 #53

You just did it. nt bemildred May 2016 #54

I am one of those that doesn't get offended easily by the use of adjectives or nouns used by others. -none May 2016 #55

FWIW MosheFeingold May 2016 #56

If they choose to use those names, then thats fine philosslayer May 2016 #57

I'm confused. Then should white and black players who play on a sports team with Native Americans Akicita May 2016 #63

good job at disassembling... guntotin librul May 2016 #82

Read your history. The Trojans were definitely subject to genocide. So in your mind only those Akicita May 2016 #83

I'm part Cherokee madokie May 2016 #60

My husband is also part Cherokee shrike May 2016 #67

Same but redskins is a racist and sick term rockfordfile May 2016 #70

Part of the name of my state madokie May 2016 #71

I have done a fair bit of work with Native American groups Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2016 #62

I have a lot of guilt about how our country treated Irish immigrants so I am fighting Akicita May 2016 #64

Yes, you might be anigbrowl May 2016 #73

Good advice. Thank you. I will take it. Akicita May 2016 #74

OK, I'm glad to share some food for thought anigbrowl May 2016 #75

All good advice and I needed the perspective. Thanks again. Akicita May 2016 #77

LOL abelenkpe May 2016 #78

Why is white, black, and brown ok to describe people but red is racist? Akicita May 2016 #84

I still think the potato mascot is a good compromise madville May 2016 #79

Otherwise known as the Spuds. Has a nice ring to it. Akicita May 2016 #85

Indians? Well what they don't tell you is that they did the survey in New Delhi PersonNumber503602 May 2016 #81