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Blackjackdavey

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115. I can't hire a full staff

Tue May 24, 2016, 09:43 AM

May 2016

I'm just going to toss a little personal anecdote as food for thought during this interesting discussion. I manage one of the three largest employers in a very beautiful rural area of New York state. For three years running, I have never been at full staff -- not once, not for a second. I have been continuously seeking professionally licensed individuals to pay solidly middle class salaries to. I can barely get applicants. I will also add that my wife is also continuously hiring less skilled staff at her location -- no exaggeration -- continuously. The point is, I guess, personal choice regarding location and career path seems to be a major factor. Additionally, regional factors are at play. We have positions that we can't fill -- ever.

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The U.S. is 'basically at full employment' [View all] n2doc May 2016 OP

What is the labor participation rate? Throd May 2016 #1

The labor participation rate has nothing to do with unemployment rate SFnomad May 2016 #19

No shit. It's more relevant. Throd May 2016 #38

No it isn't n/t SFnomad May 2016 #47

To actual people it is AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #53

Worshiping U3? You mean, the number they've used for generations. Of course, now that Obama is in SFnomad May 2016 #81

And which has been systematically manipulated for generations AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #82

Those tens of millions of people are ... SFnomad May 2016 #83

You're living in la-la land. AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #86

It's clear you think you know more than you do .. SFnomad May 2016 #87

Ah yes, the forgotten poor and unemployed are now a "right wing talking point" AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #94

Nope, this is just numbers and math SFnomad May 2016 #96

And this kids is how you make 5% look like 75% on a graph snooper2 May 2016 #122

A Hillary shill shills for phony feel-good Wall Street U3 statistics brentspeak May 2016 #116

Phony Feel-Good Wall Street U3 statistics? SFnomad May 2016 #117

Maybe you should get out of the house and check out the rush hour traffic going into the city snooper2 May 2016 #121

Ridiculously false Lucky Luciano May 2016 #56

Labor participation rate can be a nearly meaningless number SFnomad May 2016 #78

The 90 million plus thing is obvious horseshit. Lucky Luciano May 2016 #79

No, actually the 90+ million isn't. And if you don't know that, you don't understand what it is. SFnomad May 2016 #80

Dude - you are insulting the wrong guy. Lucky Luciano May 2016 #85

It's also not down 5% ... SFnomad May 2016 #89

U3 is useless.. sendero May 2016 #101

That's a very odd theory, remarkably novel. The participation rate is the other half of unemployment Yo_Mama May 2016 #93

Re: The participation rate is the other half of unemployment SFnomad May 2016 #95

It's not "unique theory" ... it's called math SFnomad May 2016 #114

I can't hire a full staff Blackjackdavey May 2016 #115

Labor Participation Rate was lower than now back when "America was great" hollowdweller May 2016 #124

Someone that actually gets it SFnomad May 2016 #126

I'm glad you pointed that out ... Blanks May 2016 #127

Too bad salaries didn't keep up, huh Doremus May 2016 #130

I'm doing ok... Blanks May 2016 #132

Seems to me worldviews like yours have helped put us -and keep us- in this mess. Doremus May 2016 #136

You're partly right... Blanks May 2016 #137

We don't look down our noses at poor people at DU Doremus May 2016 #138

I never look down my nose at anyone... Blanks May 2016 #139

You never look down at people...except those who 'live beyond their means' (in your limited opinion) Doremus May 2016 #140

They annoy me... Blanks May 2016 #141

It is discussed here: mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #58

62.8% of adults - the lowest since 1978. forest444 May 2016 #131

Well as long as you are a 1%er I guess it is all good news. jwirr May 2016 #2

What does that have to do with 1%ers? Democat May 2016 #10

High employment? chervilant May 2016 #111

Yeah but you are talking wages not employment. hollowdweller May 2016 #125

Apparently, chervilant May 2016 #135

People are not stupid. They know when their paycheck can't keep up with the liberal_at_heart May 2016 #3

Wage rises arre what you'd expect tocome next after achieving full employment anigbrowl May 2016 #5

From one insider slug to another.....nt wolfie001 May 2016 #4

They have diluted the product bucolic_frolic May 2016 #6

$45,000/yr $125,00/yr full benefits/retirement Blackjackdavey May 2016 #129

Where can I apply? bucolic_frolic May 2016 #133

Tell someone making $9/hr how he's got it so good. hobbit709 May 2016 #7

pays more than no job maxsolomon May 2016 #27

What a load of crap. "the perfect is the enemy of the good" Phlem May 2016 #32

i didn't say it was PERFECT maxsolomon May 2016 #35

I didn't say anything about perfect. Your option just becomes inhumane Phlem May 2016 #39

but I did say something about perfection maxsolomon May 2016 #54

The statistic is a phony one brentspeak May 2016 #118

Would you like some fries with that? bvar22 May 2016 #45

Now there's an app for that Cayenne May 2016 #97

Bumper-stickers are the enemy of rational thought. LanternWaste May 2016 #44

I read that on a Prius yesterday maxsolomon May 2016 #55

Many people will complain no matter what Democat May 2016 #8

Believing one's own propaganda can cause one to look quite foolish. Kip Humphrey May 2016 #9

Being constantly negative also causes one to look foolish Democat May 2016 #12

deluding oneself regarding the facts does not support clear thinking around charting a correct Kip Humphrey May 2016 #15

Look around, there are plenty who are going to help Trump Democat May 2016 #16

unsupported by fact. Kip Humphrey May 2016 #17

which part? maxsolomon May 2016 #28

The decline of the middle class has accelerated under Obama brentspeak May 2016 #119

I've seen several Politicub May 2016 #134

The very prospect gets some of them into a tizzy of naysaying anticipation... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #41

Spiro Agnew is "great" now? nxylas May 2016 #57

Damn, is irony completely dead? I guess one has to slap this on every tongue-in-cheek line: Surya Gayatri May 2016 #72

Oops, sorry nxylas May 2016 #99

No problem. Tongue-in-cheek isn't always obvious in writing. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #100

You were right the first time. merrily May 2016 #104

Why not? War criminal Kissinger is a mentor. merrily May 2016 #103

What?!? chervilant May 2016 #112

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #11

What is your solution? Democat May 2016 #13

And a hell of a lot of jobs are filled by H1B's. LiberalArkie May 2016 #23

Of course, they're shopping at Walmart because they can't afford to shop anywhere else Jack Rabbit May 2016 #37

There is something wrong with this picture Jack Rabbit May 2016 #14

"Clinton News Network" - you sound exactly like Rush Limbaugh! Democat May 2016 #20

I think the sleep has drifted into coma. Squinch May 2016 #52

As is any criticism of the Clintons, apparently nxylas May 2016 #102

This is a site for Democrats, you will be welcomed at a right wing site Democat May 2016 #107

Thank you for proving my point nxylas May 2016 #110

Sad, really, chervilant May 2016 #113

I've seen someone refer to CNN as the M$M on here. Ace Rothstein May 2016 #123

But Hannity keeps saying there's 90 million plus unemployed packman May 2016 #18

Look at the posts on this thread Democat May 2016 #21

Hannity lies to the rubes ... and they don't know the difference n/t SFnomad May 2016 #22

Well, There ARE 90 million+ "not participating" in the workforce 7962 May 2016 #29

Way more than half. Lucky Luciano May 2016 #59

Labor Force Participation melm00se May 2016 #50

Thanks; I shouldve used that chart in my reply. 7962 May 2016 #65

i'm goign to see the glass as half full maxsolomon May 2016 #24

... winter is coming May 2016 #34

i'm sorry that you have friends that are struggling maxsolomon May 2016 #73

That's a false choice. winter is coming May 2016 #74

there will always be people out of work, and a certain percentage of them struggling. maxsolomon May 2016 #90

Despite the bitching by others in this thread... Xolodno May 2016 #25

We hemorrhaged millions of jobs thanks to NAFTA, WTO, and all d_legendary1 May 2016 #26

just because you don't like the quality maxsolomon May 2016 #30

So we've gone from "eat your peas" to "eat your pea" because winter is coming May 2016 #61

again, this official is not speaking to the quality of the jobs maxsolomon May 2016 #71

No, officials carefully do NOT speak about anything that takes away from merrily May 2016 #105

that shiny chrome strip down the side of the car sure looks snazzy, doesn't it? islandmkl May 2016 #108

The same yard stick SpankMe May 2016 #31

This is because the labor participation rate still near 40 year lows.. modestybl May 2016 #33

a positive attitude helps the economy IronLionZion May 2016 #36

There's lots of shitty jobs, so just get 3 or 4 of them and someday you may be able to ... Scuba May 2016 #40

The official unemployment rate is not a good measure of employment health. Not because the President Akicita May 2016 #42

The U.S. is 'basically at full employment' AlbertCat May 2016 #43

not even fucking close. nt restorefreedom May 2016 #46

tons of jobs available in honolulu. mostly PT tho nt msongs May 2016 #48

That's the problem isn't it? apnu May 2016 #63

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #49

This is good news, right? Raine1967 May 2016 #51

If this is full employment then we are in real trouble. nt silvershadow May 2016 #60

The American worker has taken a pay cut. apnu May 2016 #62

Ironic with the extreme homelessness in San Francisco dreamnightwind May 2016 #64

the homeless aren't in the workforce though maxsolomon May 2016 #70

"We're basically at full employment,"... dreamnightwind May 2016 #84

look, its a narrowly defined technical economics term maxsolomon May 2016 #92

I'm quite aware how the term is defined by economists dreamnightwind May 2016 #98

LOL...what ID10T would believe this BS? ileus May 2016 #66

which part is BS? maxsolomon May 2016 #69

Basic income / negative income tax is going to be necessary. joshcryer May 2016 #67

obviously his paychecks still cash dembotoz May 2016 #68

How does that saying go about, BunkieBandit May 2016 #75

complete bullshit Skittles May 2016 #76

Seems to me they look at the wrong numbers. elleng May 2016 #77

Anyone who really believes government statistics is a superstitious ninny. n/t Old Union Guy May 2016 #88

How can it be? Look at 25-54 participation, Yo_Mama May 2016 #91

What great information! Thanks! trudyco May 2016 #120

Yes, a whackload, which means we are not at full employment. Yo_Mama May 2016 #128

Meanwhile, elsewhere on the board as we type: merrily May 2016 #106

old axiom: "Math does not lie...but people do..." islandmkl May 2016 #109