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DetlefK

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21. Sanders is a social-democrat. And if you want an example for social-democracy, look at Germany.

Tue May 24, 2016, 12:44 PM

May 2016

No lines in front of food-vendors, no shortages, and the economy is doing just fine...

Germany's economic model was designed to be a mix of capitalism and socialism. It's called "Soziale Marktwirtschaft" and it's basically capitalism plus regulations that keep that capitalism from destabilizing economy and society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_market_economy

And the social-democrats are the second-largest political party in Germany, only outmatched by Merkel's conservatives (and even Germany's conservatives are still more like US-Democrats than US-Republicans).

The far-left gets about 5-15% in the polls in Germany, but even they are more like social-democrats than socialists. And actual communists, socialists, marxists, leninists get <1%.

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Sanders is a social-democrat. And if you want an example for social-democracy, look at Germany. DetlefK May 2016 #21

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