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Ken Burch

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66. Let me try this again...

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 02:21 AM

Jan 2012

I'm fine with immigrants learning English(I wish all our native-born Republican presidential candidates could actually speak it), but let it be voluntary and without coercion. And accept that it's taking care of itself.

And it's been a long-standing pattern in this country's treatment of immigrants that each wave has been expected to "assimilate" in a way that they haven't just been expected to try to understand the way this country works, but have been expected to treat their own heritages as something to be ashamed of and something to at least partially abandoned. It even happened to Scandinavian immigrants. It just isn't necessary.

Just accept that everybody has the right to be true to themselves even when they do move to this country. That's not asking too much.

And we don't need to worry about the English thing...it will simply take care of itself if left alone. OK?

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Perry voices support for English as the national language [View all] TexasTowelie Dec 2011 OP

As opposed to what you and your twin, GW Bush, speak. onehandle Dec 2011 #1

K&R!!!! orpupilofnature57 Dec 2011 #3

Bingo! DesertRat Dec 2011 #9

Ha--I was gonna say "Maybe he'll bother to learn it one day!" nt MADem Dec 2011 #16

It's called englidiot. russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #45

DUzy sakabatou Dec 2011 #46

Why is it that the biggest advocates for English as the national language Cleita Dec 2011 #2

It's the same basis for racism ,homophobia, and torquemada disease orpupilofnature57 Dec 2011 #4

Not dissimilar from such people being anti-curious, BadgerKid Dec 2011 #32

Xenophobia is reverered by con artists . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2011 #34

cuz larning jes one langage is hard enuff. 2 r moor'd make a feller have to thank! yurbud Dec 2011 #50

Damn, everyone's beating me to the punch line: "Well then he should learn it!" JackRiddler Dec 2011 #5

thought this was settled back in 1795. marasinghe Dec 2011 #6

It's code for: "this is a Euro-American country." David__77 Dec 2011 #7

Wow! I didn't realize brown people couldn't learn english Confusious Dec 2011 #10

Only in part. Igel Dec 2011 #18

"Native American language", Spanish? Quantess Dec 2011 #20

In one that knows sarcasm. Igel Dec 2011 #25

The aim is to exclude any language not introduced to the Americas by white Protestants Ken Burch Dec 2011 #26

Oh, please. The goal is to exclude everything but English. Quantess Dec 2011 #38

I was referring to English, which was introduced to North America Ken Burch Dec 2011 #42

Yes, but it's still an overreach, to put it politely. Quantess Dec 2011 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Quantess Dec 2011 #52

You'll notive that I changed it to people "of the British Isles" Ken Burch Dec 2011 #54

But then again, how difficult is it to learn another language? Quantess Dec 2011 #55

OK...it's a good idea...and almost all immigrants do it on their own Ken Burch Jan 2012 #58

Anglocentrism is irrelevant! Quantess Jan 2012 #60

Black Americans speak English, of course Ken Burch Jan 2012 #61

Link, please. Quantess Jan 2012 #64

I agreed with you that people should eventually at least try to leave English Ken Burch Jan 2012 #70

No, you still think that "northern europeans" dictate that English should be the dominant language Quantess Jan 2012 #67

I changed it to "people of British Isles descent". Ken Burch Jan 2012 #69

So, learning english = losing uniqueness? Quantess Jan 2012 #62

It's fine, if it's voluntary. And it's happening on its own. Ken Burch Jan 2012 #63

LOL... "American culture" is sad reflection. Quantess Jan 2012 #65

Let me try this again... Ken Burch Jan 2012 #66

With that... I agree! Quantess Jan 2012 #72

Interesting to see the edit post feature being used in a way to substantially change posts Quantess Jan 2012 #75

I don't think that was the point treestar Jan 2012 #57

Maybe so, but that's what it sounded like Confusious Jan 2012 #74

It's about not making it an official language treestar Jan 2012 #76

Well, we are based on "European values" Confusious Jan 2012 #77

It would affect nothing treestar Jan 2012 #78

yeah, because "states' rights" is SO 1980. alp227 Dec 2011 #21

Oh goodie another constitutional amendment Historic NY Dec 2011 #8

A constitutional amendment is way too difficult. TexasTowelie Dec 2011 #11

Thank Gawd, Rick (The Hair) Perry ain't got the chance of a snowball in Texas to sign it. freshwest Dec 2011 #12

Yeah...he'd have to learn how to write his own name first. Ken Burch Dec 2011 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Norrin Radd Dec 2011 #13

Will conservative protesters be required to learn to spell, then? Norrin Radd Dec 2011 #14

Is "Oops" found in English dictionaries? Zambero Dec 2011 #15

HAHAHAHAHAHA nauthiz Dec 2011 #17

he digs a bigger hole for himself every day Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2011 #19

so this amendment will override Texas, Louisiana, Hawaii, and Native American tribes? alp227 Dec 2011 #22

Almost makes me wish nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #23

I'll have to read the treaty about that. TexasTowelie Dec 2011 #24

The treaty is simple nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #28

Ridiculous! Our official language should be American. tclambert Dec 2011 #29

LOL! TexasTowelie Dec 2011 #30

I have a greeting for Mr Perry nxylas Dec 2011 #31

i will be the lone dissenter in this thread ldf Dec 2011 #33

Go to South Philly and tell them to stop speaking Italian as their primary language ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #36

lack of communication between a people does nothing but create divisions. AlbertCat Dec 2011 #37

Lack of communication between a people and what? EFerrari Dec 2011 #40

Eh tu Ricky, eh tu?? JoePhilly Dec 2011 #35

DUZY tavalon Dec 2011 #43

Perry: "I eschew the jejune pedantry of non-Anglican argots." sofa king Dec 2011 #39

Fascinating. He advocates a national language for which he shows little proficiency. tavalon Dec 2011 #41

An easy thing to come out in favor of, since he has no chance of being the nominee. Lyric Dec 2011 #44

Just saw the John Sales film "Silver City" The candidate was exactly Rick Perry! FailureToCommunicate Dec 2011 #47

I'll support this if it starts with removing all Latin legal terms and replacing them with English OmahaBlueDog Dec 2011 #48

I hear he's advocating 75 as the national I.Q., too. nt valerief Dec 2011 #49

...and ban all other languages? Islandlife Dec 2011 #53

What do they think will happen, really? treestar Jan 2012 #56

Well, he better get on it. RUMMYisFROSTED Jan 2012 #59

Most Western European countries that i.e. hold any respect for have similar laws Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #68

Which dialect? gtar100 Jan 2012 #71

There are actually different accents here depending upon which part of the state that you live in. TexasTowelie Jan 2012 #73