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23. this has been suggested for quite a while now but many were in denial

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“Game-Changing” Study Links Cellphone Radiation to Cancer [View all] groundloop May 2016 OP

Darn rats! Who got them cellphones in the first place! Silver_Witch May 2016 #1

They probably won't have to give them up if the companies can improve the shielding cstanleytech May 2016 #4

Can't shield the antenna or it won't work. hobbit709 May 2016 #5

Who knows, maybe they can redesign the antennas or use somthing like a bluetooth cstanleytech May 2016 #24

speaker phone mode SCantiGOP May 2016 #31

Bluetooth has a range of not much more than 30 ft or so. hobbit709 May 2016 #61

I was thinking more along the lines of a cheap little external antenna cstanleytech May 2016 #77

100KW -- did that have water-cooled tubes yourpaljoey May 2016 #102

What do you think? proverbialwisdom May 2016 #79

I would have to see an independant study done on them to see if they actually cstanleytech May 2016 #81

Lke this? proverbialwisdom May 2016 #85

Interesting, still the cases arent designed for every phone so i suspect cstanleytech May 2016 #87

thinking it more for protecting like RFID Case Silver_Witch May 2016 #88

You didn't read the material carefully enough. (nt) proverbialwisdom May 2016 #91

Why not just turn it off? One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #98

Very seldom do I put my cell phone up to my head madokie May 2016 #14

That's me too. 99th_Monkey May 2016 #33

Me too. My left ear is toast and I'm right-handed. Mostly, I just text. MgtPA May 2016 #45

Rats are also terribly susceptible to leisure suits elljay May 2016 #59

See there is evidence that Rats are afterall quite wise Silver_Witch May 2016 #89

Certainly about wearing leisure suits elljay May 2016 #90

Rats are insanely prone to cancer JesterCS May 2016 #92

I had a sister-in-law died from brain tumors. yallerdawg May 2016 #2

let me text my friend and tell her...oh wait. nt Javaman May 2016 #3

+1 99th_Monkey May 2016 #34

There's a massive ongoing human study MowCowWhoHow III May 2016 #6

no controls? reddread May 2016 #19

However the smoking study I linked to was carried out MowCowWhoHow III May 2016 #20

This would be a correlational study not an experiment. Loudestlib May 2016 #29

Nobody uses cell phones for voice any more anyway. NT Ex Lurker May 2016 #7

My fellow passengers on Metrorail and Metrobus must not have heard about this development. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #9

I'm a mostly text kind of guy myself madokie May 2016 #15

if I had to choose between talk or text NJCher May 2016 #109

At my wife and I's age madokie May 2016 #110

I certainly don't-- or I use headphones Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #22

Especially most children and teens. tavernier May 2016 #54

Wouldn't the radiation effect all cells in the body? OnlinePoker May 2016 #76

Thanks.. LiberalArkie May 2016 #8

Gotta do the headphone thing Scientific May 2016 #10

On a wire, Bluetooth no good. Speakerphone should be fine also still_one May 2016 #32

yes, I encourage all who read this to spend $5 to $15 to get a wired headset for your phone GreatGazoo May 2016 #48

I wear hearing aids in both ears. How am I supposed to use a headset or ear buds? -none May 2016 #103

Please share your source of $5-$15 wired headset- preferably comfortable (not buds) and Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2016 #114

For any cellphone batteries, chargers, headset, etc GreatGazoo May 2016 #119

Me too, I can't stand the vibe of the phone next to my head. glowing May 2016 #41

My wife insisted on a handset which plugs into an iPhone ... SomeGuyInEagan Jun 2016 #124

adding a link mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #11

Ha! trudyco May 2016 #16

Johnny Cochran was highly suspected tavernier May 2016 #56

The National Toxicology Program is holding a media briefing at noon today to discuss the results mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #12

I'll be sure to listen in on my smart phone. mac56 May 2016 #18

where did they get the teeny tiny little cell phones?! n/t Locrian May 2016 #13

. Guy Whitey Corngood May 2016 #42

Beat me to it, but I was going to make the 'how are they even supposed to fit in the building' joke. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #52

Ha! Guy Whitey Corngood May 2016 #55

--- mac56 May 2016 #17

And cell phone corporations come out with never-before-heard-of scientist and science fasttense May 2016 #21

Where is the cancer in humans? former9thward May 2016 #116

They're here. N/T fasttense May 2016 #121

this has been suggested for quite a while now but many were in denial Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #23

That's not quite it. Orrex May 2016 #36

I know what you are saying Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #65

I've likewise been skeptical, but... Orrex May 2016 #70

Many thought that because One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #95

No convincing evidence AND no scientific reason William Seger May 2016 #68

fair enough... I know what you are saying Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #83

I don't think it will, read the study yourself, no biological significant effects for female rats... Humanist_Activist May 2016 #100

Your last sentence is where we fundamentally disagree. I take whatever evidence there is Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2016 #115

My hunch is that this is a cumulative problem, more likely to harm those who grew up with cellphones groundloop May 2016 #25

My husband gave me a hard time when I made the SAR rating the #1 criteria for selecting a phone Skwmom May 2016 #26

Looks like I am safe Matt_in_STL May 2016 #27

I think this will have some major consequences to the industry still_one May 2016 #28

New brain cancer diagnoses linked to reality Major Nikon May 2016 #30

That chart does not exactly show a huge increase SheilaT May 2016 #37

The uptick at the end is interesting daleo May 2016 #112

Notice that rates of diagnosed brain cancer fell SheilaT May 2016 #117

Of course there may be a lagged covariance, once we get more data daleo May 2016 #120

Interesting correlation at end (where we would expect it). Need data newer than a decade old. Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #38

Delete this post - people might not panic!!! We want panic!!!111!!!1 Lucky Luciano May 2016 #40

Way back in the 90's the cell phones transmitted with a lot more power than they do now. LiberalArkie May 2016 #43

I think the 600mhz spectrum just went up for, or is about to go up for auction. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #49

I was going to say, it drops at 2006. That's around the time the iPhone came into being. C Moon May 2016 #53

As I recall gliomas need a few years to get from a few cells to something that will be disruptive to Jemmons May 2016 #62

glioma isn't mesothelioma Major Nikon May 2016 #80

You have the requirements for relevance lined up the wrong way round. If and only if you can be sure Jemmons May 2016 #84

Nobody is saying they are sure of anything Major Nikon May 2016 #86

Interesting. sofa king May 2016 #93

Now can we study wireless access points? Ned Flanders May 2016 #35

Very different frequencies/power levels. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #51

I wonder how much RF is being broadcast along all those big power lines bringing us the jtuck004 May 2016 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #63

Anecdotally, shortwave reception has been wiped out. mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #64

Such as that on my sw radio or...? n/t jtuck004 May 2016 #66

Right. 1.711 MHz to 29.999 MHz mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #67

I used to do that as well, and had noticed the reception wasn't near what it used to be. jtuck004 May 2016 #69

That's a content problem. Not EMF. Frank Cannon May 2016 #71

FCC Stopped accepting China Lab data One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #106

The radiation level the rats received was "not very different" from what humans are exposed to ... AlbertCat May 2016 #44

Except they are much higher, distributed across the entire body, and were for 9 hours per day Major Nikon May 2016 #50

Also the cell size in humans and rats are different. -none May 2016 #104

About overhead power lines mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #46

Hand women the Cell Phones guys One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #47

they knew this already without killing the rats restorefreedom May 2016 #57

Fire hot..burns. vkkv May 2016 #58

My Schwannoma geardaddy May 2016 #60

I read a study years ago truthisfreedom May 2016 #72

It's time to develop phone cases that shield the radiation from users. The phone industry should Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #73

Unfortunately, if you shield the user you'll also shield the cell tower (i.e. won't work) groundloop May 2016 #74

Where there is a will there is a way! Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #75

Offhand three solutions One_Life_To_Give May 2016 #107

The rich will have the problem solved for themselves at our expense. :-/ Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #108

I wonder if this is the same with DECT cordless phones. nt valerief May 2016 #78

Lee Atwater Jesus Malverde May 2016 #82

woah causes Schwannomas'? They're usually benign but cause a lot of problems to nerves. Sunlei May 2016 #94

This also is linked to cancer and it must be corrected whistler162 May 2016 #96

Good luck taking on Big Water. Their contributions to Congress fall like rain. mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #105

Hopefully they used whistler162 May 2016 #97

Interesting, apparently it only effects male rats, as the study itself concludes.... Humanist_Activist May 2016 #99

Cell Phone Free ForEver cantbeserious May 2016 #101

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #111

MEANWHILE... just try to find a functioning, well made & comfortable wired headset preferably Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2016 #113

Bad reporting of statistically insignificant results. athena May 2016 #118

No, a rat study with marginal results does not prove that cell phones cause cancer, GoneOffShore May 2016 #122

So, if you have to use a smart phone, what would you consider a "best practices" to safeguard WhoWoodaKnew Jun 2016 #123