Clinton and media outlets are still counting superdelegates in voter tallies, despite pleas from DNC

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42. Apparently this is not about what Sanders thinks

It's what the DNC thinks is the right way to operate. I happen to agree. You cannot have a non-voter-tied delegate determine who wins the nomination before the primaries are all over and one candidate goes to the convention with the majority of pledged (voter picked) delegates (or reaches the required number of pledged delegates to win ahead of time).

You should not be able to count the superdelegates in that "required" total until the convention, after they've actually voted.

Even if it is done this correct way, Hillary is still most likely going to have the majority of pledged delegates; but if voters decide to give Bernie enough to pull into the lead (meaning all voters in the country) then it is only fair it not be decided until the convention when the votes are final.

If Bernie wins enough votes in California, to actually move ahead of Hillary in popular votes and pledged delegates (which I don't expect to happen), why shouldn't he win?

What kind of world to some of you want to live in? I thought this was a democracy, not a contest with rigged rules.

I suspect that in the past, once the "media" decided to call a "presumptive" nominee (note, presumptive does not mean actual), the candidate who was not called, conceded to the presumptive nominee, labeling them the winner and the nominee.

Has anyone ever stood up to this "media" determination before? Maybe not. Maybe this is the first time someone had the guts to say wait till the race is over. In which case, the media might be wrong and the DNC is right is saying don't include the superdelegates in the count until the convention. But they should have clarified this sooner.