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(1,473 posts)The man can't stop lying and he does even when it's not necessary and so he exposes his story o' baloney.
Snowden recently told NBC that he "destroyed" the extra documents, but he had previously told The New York Times that he gave them all to journalists he met in Hong Kong.
http://www.businessinsider.com/snowden-wont-talk-about-russian-spies-2014-6
"whether Ed was cooperating with the Russians before he reached Moscow is a debatable question, but his status with the FSB now is not actually an open matter, as everyone who understands Russian intelligence knows. Bamford believes his subject is the first Western intelligence defector to Russia ever not to cooperate with the Kremlins secret services, and that is his right. It is also everyone elses right to point out this claim is ridiculous."
https://20committee.com/2014/08/13/snowdens-new-lies-for-old/
"The interview brims with many strange and unsupported statements that portray Ed as a 21st century martyr who has offered himself as a sacrifice for Americas myriad sins against the planet. If you like this kind of thing, you like this kind of thing. Ed explains at length how easy it was for him to steal all those classified materials from the stupid NSA, and still the stupid NSA cant figure out exactly what he did, despite Snowdens charitably leaving behind clues, he says, to assist their investigation. If you prefer your narcissism unadulterated, this is the interview for you."
"There is, however, one substantive issue in the piece that needs to be discussed. Towards the end, Bamford dramatically explains how it was that his subject decided that he had crossed the Rubicon, while in a secret NSA facility buried deep under a pineapple plantation in Hawaii:
On March 13, 2013, sitting at his desk in the tunnel surrounded by computer screens, Snowden read a news story that convinced him that the time had come to act. It was an account of director of national intelligence James Clapper telling a Senate committee that the NSA does not wittingly collect information on millions of Americans. I think I was reading it in the paper the next day, talking to coworkers, saying, can you believe this shit?
Glenn Greenwald, Eds partner in the operation, recently admitted that he was in contact with Snowden long before Eds alleged awakening and decision to go rogue. In Glenns words: [Ed] first tried to contact me or did contact me back in December of 2012, when he sent me an anonymous email.
Russian Security Expert: Snowden Is Leaving Out Key Details About Russian Spies Approaching Him
Snowden's contends that he has "no relationship with the Russian government at all" despite the fact that Kucherena, his Moscow lawyer who got him an apartment, is a Putin loyalist and serves on an FSB advisory board.
http://www.businessinsider.com/snowden-wont-talk-about-russian-spies-2014-6
"Just think of these paranoid guys they're quite paranoid in most cases," Andrei Soldatov, a Russian investigative journalist who co-wrote a book on the FSB, told Business Insider. "They might think, 'OK, we worked with [Snowden] for many months and if he leaves the country he will not be under our control. And the problem is that now he might start leaking things not about the NSA but the FSB, and how we treated him here.' That might be quite a natural thought for the FSB."
Soldatov does not buy the argument that Snowden must be a spy or that he even knew what would happen from the outset just that the former NSA systems administrator is in way over his head.
The 10,000 classified NSA files Snowden stashed all over the world are highly encrypted, so the data is most likely safe (for now) even if a foreign intelligence service acquired it.
But Snowden's head is not encrypted. He is an NSA-trained hacker who "carefully read" 10,000 classified NSA files and knows his way around NSA interviews, and then managed to land in the hands of Russian intelligence.
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-snowden-may-never-leave-russia-2014-3