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67. you have fallen for the fantasies of Snowden, a classic narcissist
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jun 2016

The man can't stop lying and he does even when it's not necessary and so he exposes his story o' baloney.


Snowden recently told NBC that he "destroyed" the extra documents, but he had previously told The New York Times that he gave them all to journalists he met in Hong Kong.
http://www.businessinsider.com/snowden-wont-talk-about-russian-spies-2014-6


"whether Ed was cooperating with the Russians before he reached Moscow is a debatable question, but his status with the FSB now is not actually an open matter, as everyone who understands Russian intelligence knows. Bamford believes his subject is the first Western intelligence defector to Russia ever not to cooperate with the Kremlin’s secret services, and that is his right. It is also everyone else’s right to point out this claim is ridiculous."
https://20committee.com/2014/08/13/snowdens-new-lies-for-old/


"The interview brims with many strange and unsupported statements that portray Ed as a 21st century martyr who has offered himself as a sacrifice for America’s myriad sins against the planet. If you like this kind of thing, you like this kind of thing. Ed explains at length how easy it was for him to steal all those classified materials from the stupid NSA, and still the stupid NSA can’t figure out exactly what he did, despite Snowden’s charitably leaving behind clues, he says, to assist their investigation. If you prefer your narcissism unadulterated, this is the interview for you."


"There is, however, one substantive issue in the piece that needs to be discussed. Towards the end, Bamford dramatically explains how it was that his subject decided that he had crossed the Rubicon, while in a secret NSA facility buried deep under a pineapple plantation in Hawaii:

On March 13, 2013, sitting at his desk in the “tunnel” surrounded by computer screens, Snowden read a news story that convinced him that the time had come to act. It was an account of director of national intelligence James Clapper telling a Senate committee that the NSA does “not wittingly” collect information on millions of Americans. “I think I was reading it in the paper the next day, talking to coworkers, saying, can you believe this shit?”

Glenn Greenwald, Ed’s partner in the operation, recently admitted that he was in contact with Snowden long before Ed’s alleged awakening and decision to go rogue. In Glenn’s words: “[Ed] first tried to contact me — or did contact me back in December of 2012, when he sent me an anonymous email.”



Russian Security Expert: Snowden Is Leaving Out Key Details About Russian Spies Approaching Him

Snowden's contends that he has "no relationship with the Russian government at all" despite the fact that Kucherena, his Moscow lawyer who got him an apartment, is a Putin loyalist and serves on an FSB advisory board.
http://www.businessinsider.com/snowden-wont-talk-about-russian-spies-2014-6

"Just think of these paranoid guys — they're quite paranoid in most cases," Andrei Soldatov, a Russian investigative journalist who co-wrote a book on the FSB, told Business Insider. "They might think, 'OK, we worked with [Snowden] for many months and if he leaves the country he will not be under our control. And the problem is that now he might start leaking things not about the NSA but the FSB, and how we treated him here.' That might be quite a natural thought for the FSB."

Soldatov does not buy the argument that Snowden must be a spy or that he even knew what would happen from the outset — just that the former NSA systems administrator is in way over his head.

The 10,000 classified NSA files Snowden stashed all over the world are highly encrypted, so the data is most likely safe (for now) even if a foreign intelligence service acquired it.

But Snowden's head is not encrypted. He is an NSA-trained hacker who "carefully read" 10,000 classified NSA files and knows his way around NSA interviews, and then managed to land in the hands of Russian intelligence.
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-snowden-may-never-leave-russia-2014-3

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Eric Holder failed to provide any public service whatever yourpaljoey May 2016 #1
Defending voting rights...who cares, eh? BeyondGeography May 2016 #38
Eric, there's a short pier I wish for you to talk a long walk off. Please find it fast Feeling the Bern May 2016 #2
Eric Holder spent 7 years playing with his dick instead of prosecuting Hoppy May 2016 #3
Right after we disclose what's in the fracking poison. Priorities, dipshit. Gregorian May 2016 #4
Yeah, Eric. You can punish Snowden right after Clapper goes to jail for lying under oath askeptic May 2016 #5
No Credibility 13Dogs May 2016 #6
Just about everything in your post is misleading. Tortmaster May 2016 #34
this old song and dance from Holder? MisterP May 2016 #7
Totally enjoyed that. Thanks for the wayback. Bodych May 2016 #10
banana republic! MisterP May 2016 #11
Eric Holder codifies: NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED. eom Festivito May 2016 #8
STFU, Shyster Jack Rabbit May 2016 #9
I love that! pmorlan1 May 2016 #16
Snowden vs Rich Agony May 2016 #12
YES! pmorlan1 May 2016 #17
Edward Snowden is a national hero RoccoR5955 May 2016 #13
Eric Holder is a corporate criminal RoccoR5955 May 2016 #14
A friend who's held jobs requiring the highest LibDemAlways May 2016 #15
Snowden is a national hero. Holder failed to prosecute the criminal banksters Arazi May 2016 #18
Not while certified war criminals walk free. TonyPDX May 2016 #19
Holder, if Snowden MUST be be punished Kelvin Mace May 2016 #20
.+1 840high May 2016 #21
^^^^^^ This times 10 ^^^^^ laserhaas May 2016 #42
Hey ..ERIC HOLDER..you performed a public service laserhaas May 2016 #22
And I bet Holder supports Sanders... Helen Borg May 2016 #23
unpacking the bullshit Warren Stupidity May 2016 #24
Real whistleblowers reveal things like fraud and other related crimes they dont however cstanleytech May 2016 #31
I'd be willing to bet China and Russia now have the info Snowden stole. brush May 2016 #51
Maybe they have or maybe they havent but I havent seen any actual evidence that cstanleytech May 2016 #53
you have fallen for the fantasies of Snowden, a classic narcissist puffy socks Jun 2016 #67
No, I havent because I believe he should be prosecuted for mishandling of classified intelligence. n cstanleytech Jun 2016 #68
If you're here... puffy socks Jun 2016 #69
Carlton Larson a law professor disagrees with you cstanleytech Jun 2016 #70
Get real, Eric. WhiteHat May 2016 #25
Wtf StoneCarver May 2016 #30
Petraeus, Libby, Armitage, Clapper FairWinds May 2016 #26
I agree, except for the public service part bravenak May 2016 #27
Comrade Eddie is a coward. nt msanthrope May 2016 #28
Ran straight to Putin bravenak May 2016 #29
You guys sure do like your authoritarian parties and governments. Why is risking prosecution and JCanete May 2016 #33
So does Eddie....which is why he is a guest of Putin. nt msanthrope May 2016 #37
Stupid answer. Snowden had few options. You know this. You just don't give a shit. JCanete May 2016 #43
Snowden had many options. He chose poorly. Had he gone to Sanders or Kucinich, he msanthrope May 2016 #44
So, in the context of a government that has clearly been shown to do shady shit, JCanete May 2016 #46
it's likely that Snowden would have received the same amount of trouble that Thomas Drake did. msanthrope May 2016 #47
Your standards are just dumb. To pretend Snowden didn't give anything up to do this, or that JCanete May 2016 #50
Like I said, Thomas Drake, an actual whistleblower, stayed and triumphed. Snowden? Ran and partied msanthrope May 2016 #52
Is this a binary? WTF? They're both patriots. You can waste your time with motivations JCanete May 2016 #54
By the way, here are Thomas Drake's words on Snowden's actions and whistleblowing. nt JCanete May 2016 #55
funny... drake does not compliment Snowden msanthrope May 2016 #57
Here's an idea!!! Show me his rejection of Snowden's action. Here's another article, JCanete May 2016 #58
Seriously.... you think a patriot like Thomas Drake thinks that mr. Snowden msanthrope May 2016 #61
holy shit, put up or shut up. Tell me that's not you just having an opinion. nt JCanete May 2016 #62
Welcome to DU. nt msanthrope May 2016 #63
you made a claim about this man's opinion on Snowden. Do you have proof? nt JCanete May 2016 #64
I think that would be a great question to ask Mr. drake in 2016. while he lauded Snowden msanthrope May 2016 #65
Our government enabled Putin. If we do shady shit, we should get caught doing it. Putin is a JCanete Jun 2016 #66
yup JI7 May 2016 #32
Shakespeare said "kill all the whistleblowerss".. Lodestar May 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Lodestar May 2016 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #39
Yes...yes....I'm wringing my hands together at the tasty thought! mmmmmm JCanete May 2016 #56
"On the other hand, the banks harmed the public, so they must be rewarded." nt bemildred May 2016 #40
Amen...Oligarch Rules laserhaas May 2016 #41
Snowden punished. Yes. HRC, maybe. EndElectoral May 2016 #45
Of course... Most of what he leaked had nothing to do with public interest Blue_Tires May 2016 #48
And we've got to punish Snowden christx30 May 2016 #49
.. warrprayer May 2016 #59
STFU, Eric. Please, just ... warrprayer May 2016 #60
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