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47. A Bill in the works

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 06:52 AM

Jan 2012

If I recall correctly, there is a bill that has been filed in the House by a Rethug, which would codify into law clear terms regarding no detention of citizens by the military. It came up in a few articles a month back.

OF course, this means we're relying on the HOUSE to fix a mess it started. For some reason, I doubt that we can count on them.

Gee, I wonder what that reason would be...

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President Obama signs defense bill despite 'reservations' [View all] cal04 Dec 2011 OP

� Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #1

Seems quite clear. Robb Dec 2011 #2

The wiggle room is the signing statement, which doesn't mean diddley, in and of itself. n/t ixion Dec 2011 #4

Whaddaya, some kind of a cynic? RUMMYisFROSTED Jan 2012 #32

Execution of American Citizens without trial is still Okey Dokey. GeorgeGist Dec 2011 #5

Bingo FedUp_Queer Jan 2012 #33

"The administration will not authorize it.." JackDragna Dec 2011 #10

The President is the Commander in Chief of all US military forces. What they do is inherently 24601 Jan 2012 #49

Two problems: ChadwickHenryWard Dec 2011 #16

"any subsequent administration could easily use that power to detain Americans without trial" mrarundale Dec 2011 #28

Exactly texshelters Dec 2011 #30

Honestly? FedUp_Queer Jan 2012 #34

That's a really tough question. ChadwickHenryWard Jan 2012 #43

You make it sound.. sendero Dec 2011 #18

What about if Obama is not there? You think a Neo Cons would stop? lib2DaBone Dec 2011 #21

What about Cons that are non-Neo in nature? By adding the "Neo" modifier, it makes me believe 24601 Jan 2012 #50

Well since Obama's going to be president forever yeah, I don't see any problem with it. Downtown Hound Dec 2011 #31

...And for any future President? have you no knowledge of history?! webDude Jan 2012 #36

What about the next administration? bvar22 Jan 2012 #51

"any bill I sign must include a public option" Zhade Jan 2012 #53

Tut-tut. Robb Jan 2012 #56

On other issues, DU has instructed me that signing statements are not good enough Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Dec 2011 #25

Bush used a lot of signing statements. alp227 Jan 2012 #46

Full Statement by the President on H.R. 1540 Tx4obama Dec 2011 #6

hmm... chervilant Jan 2012 #41

Wow, he really, REALLY likes the unitary executive concept. Zhade Jan 2012 #54

2 things I will say about this: 1) interesting how this bill was signed the same day Iran Sactions Justice wanted Dec 2011 #7

Huh? The Iran sanctions are IN the NDAA bill that Obama signed - so what are you talking about? Tx4obama Dec 2011 #9

I just find it interesting that those two bills would be signed on the same day. Justice wanted Dec 2011 #11

There aren't TWO bills there is only ONE bill. Tx4obama Dec 2011 #12

hmmm... The way I understood it it was two different things. thank you for enlighting me. I find Justice wanted Dec 2011 #13

There are TONS of things in the NDAA bill, it is several hundred pages big. n/t Tx4obama Dec 2011 #15

What's really interesting... FedUp_Queer Jan 2012 #39

Well, I'm glad that he used the full 10 days to have his folks review all the details in the bill, Tx4obama Jan 2012 #44

I don't think you get it. FedUp_Queer Jan 2012 #58

Interesting name... Charlemagne Jan 2012 #59

"I'll sign off on this erosion of the Constitution and pledge not to be a despot personally..." Bucky Dec 2011 #8

+1 well said nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #23

And that is the point of this zeemike Dec 2011 #29

Sorry but he caved again when he didn't have to. This sucks. williesgirl Dec 2011 #14

So, can we say that he signed the bill now? yardwork Dec 2011 #17

Yep. :) n/t Tx4obama Dec 2011 #19

If he loses in 2012 *and* a Republican ends up in the White House, is it still law? Occulus Jan 2012 #37

Here's something good to read if you have the time ... Tx4obama Jan 2012 #38

So, who're they gonna go after first? blkmusclmachine Dec 2011 #20

If you had "reservations" about anything.... lib2DaBone Dec 2011 #22

Good question. nt SammyWinstonJack Dec 2011 #24

to my untrained eye.... unkachuck Dec 2011 #26

"traditions and values" ??? mrarundale Dec 2011 #27

Notice how he said "will not", not "cannot". Zhade Jan 2012 #55

forty retired generals asked him not to sign it lovuian Jan 2012 #35

To veto, or not to veto the appropriation bill funding our national defense cheapdate Jan 2012 #40

"reservations".............riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Skittles Jan 2012 #42

I hope that everyone takes the time to read the ARTICLE on the link below Tx4obama Jan 2012 #45

A Bill in the works agentS Jan 2012 #47

There, liberals. Don't say he never gave you anything Doctor_J Jan 2012 #48

Gee, he broke another promise. Zhade Jan 2012 #52

Show me Obama's statement on his veto threats. Robb Jan 2012 #57