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47. 2383 is half of all delegates, pledged and super combined.

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:22 PM

Jun 2016

And every nominee since 1984, when the system has been created, has used some super delegates to reach that number.

If you want to count only pledged delegates, then the majority she'll need is 2026. And to do that she only needs to win 33% of all the remaining delegates.

Either way, she wins.

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Sanders Says Democratic Convention Will be Contested [View all] Hissyspit Jun 2016 OP

It will or it won't. We'll soon see. merrily Jun 2016 #1

Still...I think we Bernie supporter can take heart from this: KoKo Jun 2016 #12

I don't know why, but I have been on a very even keel since I decided to support Bernie. merrily Jun 2016 #17

I am estactic that he has gone from a 60 to 1 underdog predicted to win 1 state... bvar22 Jun 2016 #149

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #150

i think his delegates should vote for him. David__77 Jun 2016 #2

Du should run an infomercial between now and the convention Skink Jun 2016 #3

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #4

Not what I had in mind Skink Jun 2016 #5

A bit more civility please... Chicago1980 Jun 2016 #6

yeah - that's the way to win people over. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #7

True lack of class. Remember, name callers, one finger points toward libdem4life Jun 2016 #14

Can Any Hillary Supporter Please Explain To Me Clearly... davidlynch Jun 2016 #15

See post number 18 jiminvegas Jun 2016 #20

People are getting restless, they want to pivot to the general election. Beacool Jun 2016 #43

They've Been Doing It Since Day 1 billhicks76 Jun 2016 #94

Maybe so, but Hillary has won. Beacool Jun 2016 #107

A contested Democratic convention SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #135

Hillary supporters have been acting this way for over a year now AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #101

If the votes of those of us in California who have not yet voted JDPriestly Jun 2016 #125

Oh please, my state (NJ) hasn't voted yet either. Beacool Jun 2016 #139

Clinton-Trump match-up - loss of Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania would lose the Democrats the genera SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #127

Abramson is as delusional as Goodman. Beacool Jun 2016 #138

Sorry LannyDeVaney Jun 2016 #62

DWS changing her stance on payday lenders hardly shifts the party to the left. panader0 Jun 2016 #89

One issue... Matt_R Jun 2016 #91

Hah! To the right of Nixon? What a laugh. Care to back that up? brush Jun 2016 #154

Shift to the left? dynamo99 Jun 2016 #116

so you're saying that the Democratic Party supported payday lenders in the past? magical thyme Jun 2016 #118

Some of us remember 1968. I was only a child, but I remember how upset pnwmom Jun 2016 #64

That might happen - but not because Hillary might become the nominee. forest444 Jun 2016 #80

"Trump's going to be managing his convention to be a love-fest." AntiBank Jun 2016 #103

Grow up, dear. OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #155

Regular people hm um! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #132

in 2008 obama needed super delegates to win rdking647 Jun 2016 #8

The convention will be contested but yet soon DU posters will only be allowed totodeinhere Jun 2016 #9

Then DU wil be contested Skink Jun 2016 #11

The DU will be a graveyard. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2016 #60

good luck with that MFM008 Jun 2016 #76

Contested only so far as the false meme that "super delegates don't count"... Thor_MN Jun 2016 #23

Super delegate votes can be changed right up to the time they vote at the convention AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #105

Don't pretend that Clinton doesn't have a major lead in super delegates inclinations. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #133

Orwellian clg311 Jun 2016 #59

Then, he doesn't know what "contested" means. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #10

It means 'Brokered' AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #108

Brokered and contested aren't the same thing. The fact that you believe they are interchangeable TwilightZone Jun 2016 #130

It will show a lack of grace and honor in defeat but if he wants that as part of his legacy then so TeamPooka Jun 2016 #13

Oh good grief, it's not like this has never been done. It's not convenient libdem4life Jun 2016 #18

Lack of grace and honor? Maedhros Jun 2016 #61

Why do Democrats hate liberals so much? Things. Have. Changed. Enthusiast Jun 2016 #131

This is something that we, I hope most of us, taught out children Loki Jun 2016 #151

This is the same process we Democrats have used for years to elect our candidates. wisteria Jun 2016 #16

How Ironic. Bernie Relying On Superdelegates to Overturn Popular Vote TomCADem Jun 2016 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author SusanLarson Jun 2016 #21

He hired the guy who designed them Skink Jun 2016 #24

Makes You Wonder, Is It Tad Devine or Bernie Sanders? TomCADem Jun 2016 #148

Rules of the game RobertEarl Jun 2016 #25

The popular vote is irrelevant in our form of government AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #111

The Dem leadership wants a contested convention SusanLarson Jun 2016 #22

There will be but one vote. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #28

No, they don't. Beacool Jun 2016 #58

Apparently the media has flip-flopped MisterFred Jun 2016 #99

Your father probably dislikes Hillary more than he dislikes Sanders. Beacool Jun 2016 #109

Not my main point... MisterFred Jun 2016 #145

of course they want bernie out! ellennelle Jun 2016 #142

way too late SusanLarson Jun 2016 #146

Contested just means there will be a vote at the convention. Matt_R Jun 2016 #92

Please do something before this happens. redstatebluegirl Jun 2016 #26

Sanders and his supporters refuse to respect the will of the voters. They will be forced to accept Trust Buster Jun 2016 #27

Don't worry EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #31

You're hilarious and hysterical all at the same time. The voters have decided despite your whining. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #33

I'm not whining EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #34

Minus a few cultists like me ? Pal, Hillary has 3 million more votes than your phony candidate. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #147

Edward Is Quite Correct billhicks76 Jun 2016 #137

Gotta love those right wing talking points Andy823 Jun 2016 #63

You're confused EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #70

If you don't think Clinton set up a private server to avoid FOIA requests, then you're MisterFred Jun 2016 #100

So you want to refuse to accept the rules? No one is refusing to respect the will of the voters. cui bono Jun 2016 #37

The voters have NOT decided AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #114

K&R felix_numinous Jun 2016 #29

HRC also needs the SD'S Skink Jun 2016 #30

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AntiBank Jun 2016 #104

Bernie is ignoring reality. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #32

Please post the data that shows she is 70 delgates away from clinching the nomination. cui bono Jun 2016 #38

Here is the official Associated Press (AP) Delegate Tracker. pnwmom Jun 2016 #50

Superdelegates don't vote until July 25. cui bono Jun 2016 #52

I didn't call you a racist at all. For some reason you have taken that upon yourself. pnwmom Jun 2016 #71

Yes, you absolutely did. You know that very well. You had two posts hidden in that thread cui bono Jun 2016 #156

I didn't call ANY Duer a racist but you interpreted my response to your OP that way. pnwmom Jun 2016 #158

+1000 (nt) pokerfan Jun 2016 #120

SDs are committed to Hillary now, and have not and will not flip. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #141

No, they are not committed at all. They are committed when they vote. cui bono Jun 2016 #157

My math shows she is 634 delegates shy ybbor Jun 2016 #42

Gotta love how many people who talk about reality do not know what it is. cui bono Jun 2016 #46

They must not have unicorns in their pasture ybbor Jun 2016 #49

No, I'm not ignoring delegates like you are. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #88

"Hillary is only 70 delegates away." << NO, thats only with the SD's included. They are up for grabs AntiBank Jun 2016 #110

The SDs are not up for grabs. They are Hillarys and always have been. Good luck flipping them. Laser102 Jun 2016 #117

So my questions are how many super delegates would he have to get to win and cstanleytech Jun 2016 #35

No one will have enough pledged delegates ybbor Jun 2016 #41

I realize that they arent pledged yet but I am asking how many would he have cstanleytech Jun 2016 #85

TO THE CONVENTION...AND BEYOND! nt antigop Jun 2016 #36

This will only be a problem if he keeps asserting this *after* the last primary is over IMO. yodermon Jun 2016 #39

Agreed. After the last Primary... Feathery Scout Jun 2016 #112

How can a vote for one of two different candidates be contested? LannyDeVaney Jun 2016 #40

It isn't a majority that wins ybbor Jun 2016 #44

2383 is half of all delegates, pledged and super combined. pnwmom Jun 2016 #47

Right, right right ybbor Jun 2016 #51

No comment LannyDeVaney Jun 2016 #48

I'm sorry, see post 51 above ybbor Jun 2016 #54

Hey, it's a Saturday. LannyDeVaney Jun 2016 #56

I'll try ybbor Jun 2016 #67

I sympathize bravenak Jun 2016 #121

You may be looking for the term Brokered Convention Matt_R Jun 2016 #93

She WILL have a majority of pledged delegates. And despite "Bernie math" pnwmom Jun 2016 #45

People don't seem to understand us SmittynMo Jun 2016 #53

In a democracy, the person who has more votes wins the race. Beacool Jun 2016 #66

Sorry, but it's you that don't get it SmittynMo Jun 2016 #72

Wow..... Beacool Jun 2016 #79

Yeah OK SmittynMo Jun 2016 #81

if Clinton gets indicted, the Super Delegates Angel Martin Jun 2016 #90

Go Bernie! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2016 #83

Sanders: "The American people are "sick and tired of hearing about your d*mn emails!" tinrobot Jun 2016 #87

There has been a lot of damning information made public Lokijohn Jun 2016 #98

In other breaking news: tomorrow will be Sunday. brooklynite Jun 2016 #55

It just means that there will actually be a vote. Orsino Jun 2016 #57

It isn't clear at all how the superdelegates will vote. They are free agents. imagine2015 Jun 2016 #65

Yeah, no one SmittynMo Jun 2016 #73

Uh-huh. Orsino Jun 2016 #75

It's clear how those who have already committed to a candidate will vote. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #84

And Donald Trump smiles. baldguy Jun 2016 #68

And Clinton continues to join in the chaos. Matt_R Jun 2016 #95

As it should be! RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #69

Bernie stands a better shot at getting the votes of the independents Angel Martin Jun 2016 #82

59% of pledged delegates Mnpaul Jun 2016 #128

There will not be a contested convention as Bernie will concede no later than June 17th. LonePirate Jun 2016 #74

Knr. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2016 #77

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Cryptoad Jun 2016 #78

Allowed? How so? n/t ebayfool Jun 2016 #96

That would be a good thing because the country would begin shifting back to the Left. -none Jun 2016 #115

How is Bernie a "non-Democrat?" RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #159

I can't say what I really think of him and his handlers liberal N proud Jun 2016 #86

Good Marrah_G Jun 2016 #97

wont be contested...hillary wins on first ballot...then all sanders people can be escorted out beachbum bob Jun 2016 #102

Another one for the bin! thereismore Jun 2016 #140

If that's the case SwankyXomb Jun 2016 #106

How about no Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #122

And that last drop of respect I had for him is gone. tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #113

A true team player with the nation's best interest at heart.Oh, wait... JNelson6563 Jun 2016 #119

Sanders is lying about a contested convention to keep the small dollar donations flowing Gothmog Jun 2016 #123

It worked!!!!! Fuddnik Jun 2016 #124

Is Sanders making another trip to Rome for himself and ten family members using campaign funds? Gothmog Jun 2016 #136

Maybe he'll take me with him. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #143

can't be contested when hillary is voted the nominees on first ballot beachbum bob Jun 2016 #126

Yawn... stopbush Jun 2016 #129

So though he urged superdelegates to "vote in line with how the people of that state voted" muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #134

The hypocrisy, it Berns. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #144

Why is this "Breaking News"? brooklynite Jun 2016 #152

Welcome to 'Latest Bernie News.' onehandle Jun 2016 #153

One thing is certain to me for sure, Onlaketime Jun 2016 #160

LOCKING THREAD LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #161