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14. He wants young people to opt out...

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 04:03 PM

Jun 2012

because he's a corporate stooge. He knows that the employer contributes under SS....and under private plans...what forces them to do so? We all know what happened to those matching contributions to employee's 401K plans from their employers....they've been reduced..or are non-existent now.

This is from Ron Paul's Freeman website. He's pushing via Doug Bandow, the Cato idiot that was writing op-eds favorable to Casino Jack Abramoff for cash that was on Ron Paul's campaign...that Social Security is a ponzi scheme.

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/uncle-sams-retirement-scam/

Hypocrite isn't quite strong enough for me

Doug Bandow Policy advisor to Ron Paul:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?108392-Ron-Paul-Campaign-Announces-Addition-of-New-Policy-Advisors

Scroll down to see the article, Bandow writes articles for Jack Abramoff for cash.
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/dec2005/nf20051216_1037_db016.htm

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Ron Paul Admits He's On Social Security, Even Though He Believes It's Unconstitutional [View all] Galraedia Jun 2012 OP

guess he is not the good guy we thought. n/t hrmjustin Jun 2012 #1

Yes, his hypocrisy is the shocker of all shockers. Lawlbringer Jun 2012 #3

Did you also know that INdemo Jun 2012 #11

Yep. Part of the 'Be sure to take that ladder up with you when you get there!' brigade. freshwest Jun 2012 #27

how shocking repugs are hypocrites...and liars wordpix Jun 2012 #51

"We?" nt OnyxCollie Jun 2012 #4

"We?" You got a squirrel in your pocket? MADem Jun 2012 #10

+1 graham4anything Jun 2012 #29

Say one thing, do another. mbperrin Jun 2012 #2

A hypocrite! What a surprise........NOT. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2012 #5

Just add him to all those other hypocrites..... a kennedy Jun 2012 #6

LOL. Liar. Even YOU don't believe the crap you are trying to foist on others. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #7

Hahahaha... freshstart Jun 2012 #43

It's irrelevant, since he got his. DaveJ Jun 2012 #8

Fucking loser-hypocrite! You'd think he'd have the courage of his shitty little convictions... MADem Jun 2012 #9

Bet his SS is pocket change Worried senior Jun 2012 #12

I bet many of us take tax deductions that we think should be eliminated. thesquanderer Jun 2012 #13

Yea, dont see any hypocrisy myself Dokkie Jun 2012 #18

SS IS an entitlement. The word entitlement was even used in the language when it was first valerief Jun 2012 #26

Its a govt run insurance Dokkie Jun 2012 #34

Read the language used when it was implemented. It was a law. nt valerief Jun 2012 #37

Entitlement is the language they used, but... brendan120678 Jun 2012 #93

well, he probably doesn't want to take it from citizens, just wants his friends newspeak Jun 2012 #107

Is this pacifist campaigning to eliminate the GI bill for all other service personnel? n/t sarge43 Jun 2012 #72

that dawg don't hunt.. frylock Jun 2012 #19

Yes but he's telling other people to "opt out" NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #22

No, he's not telling other people to opt out. thesquanderer Jun 2012 #56

Ugh. freshstart Jun 2012 #61

I agree. Opting out is a terrible idea. thesquanderer Jun 2012 #92

Agree. freedom fighter jh Jun 2012 #23

wait..what?? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #40

How is that hypocrisy? freedom fighter jh Jun 2012 #48

The hypocrisy comes from pretending to want to save Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #77

I don't see the sly. He was asked and he answered. freedom fighter jh Jun 2012 #91

When I say 'on the sly', I mean Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #102

The point flew way over your head Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #38

That is it blue_tires. freshstart Jun 2012 #42

Urrrggghhh. freshstart Jun 2012 #45

He wants young people to opt out... freshstart Jun 2012 #14

Thank you for adding those links to this thread. freshwest Jun 2012 #28

You're welcome Freshwest. freshstart Jun 2012 #41

yeah, think enron, think world com newspeak Jun 2012 #108

Can't walk his talk...why doesn't he return the checks? ProfessionalLeftist Jun 2012 #15

It's not slavery if you take it while still receiving a salary as a US congressperson. enough Jun 2012 #17

FAKE LIBERTARIAN. onehandle Jun 2012 #16

Are there any libertarians who are not? aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #20

Libertarians are nothing... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2012 #46

GOOD one! calimary Jun 2012 #58

I stole it from somewhere ... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2012 #59

Exactly. I remember in 2008 when so many of my son's mates in high school calimary Jun 2012 #64

In other words, he doesn't practice what he preaches! nt avebury Jun 2012 #21

Just another hypocritical repuke. Zoeisright Jun 2012 #24

"There once was a congressman and there was an idiot, but then I repeat myself" - Samuel Clemens L0oniX Jun 2012 #31

Wait a minute......... Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #25

Again, there are 1000s Dokkie Jun 2012 #36

Someone needs to ask Rmoney if he and his wife will be taking SS too. L0oniX Jun 2012 #30

very good question for the debate mod to ask except he's not old enough, is he? wordpix Jun 2012 #52

Lol...he's plenty old enough freshstart Jun 2012 #65

hey. where are all the HuffPost Critics now? They_Live Jun 2012 #32

Ayn Rand did the same. OnlinePoker Jun 2012 #33

Bingo freshstart Jun 2012 #44

Yes! AynRandCollectedSS Jun 2012 #70

Meh. This is a non-issue. He's far worse in other ways. truthisfreedom Jun 2012 #35

He is far worse...however, freshstart Jun 2012 #67

Doesn't everyone? Heywood J Jun 2012 #75

Absolutely not. SSI is NOT funded throught Social Security it is funded from General Tax Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #82

I don't care; hit him from every angle possible Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #78

Can we have a National Day where we dialog about the crippling effects of Hypocrisy? Tikki Jun 2012 #39

That's why the (R) is next to his name, he's a lying hypocritical propaganda whore just1voice Jun 2012 #47

Ron paul is a... SkyDaddy7 Jun 2012 #49

Typical The Jungle 1 Jun 2012 #50

Hi Jungle Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #54

Ayn Rand would be proud aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #53

He collects SS even though he has a great-paying job??? arcane1 Jun 2012 #55

Hypocrite lovuian Jun 2012 #57

You beat me to it. eom tawadi Jun 2012 #63

If you said lying hypocrite, freshstart Jun 2012 #66

AND he's a MILLIONAIRE. progressoid Jun 2012 #60

His wealth is in precious metals and mines. freshstart Jun 2012 #69

I don't find it necessarily hypocritical Jimbo S Jun 2012 #62

He is not RETIRED, he is not ENTITLED, SS is for retirees. elleng Jun 2012 #68

This surprised me as well. He is making over a 100K a year and actively employed. I didn't think it harun Jun 2012 #81

As long as he's "full retirement" age, he's entitled JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2012 #83

Thanks, Bozo! elleng Jun 2012 #85

If you are over full retirement age, 65 for RP, mysuzuki2 Jun 2012 #88

A man of principle. sendero Jun 2012 #71

No courage of his convictions SHRED Jun 2012 #73

A quick Google; greiner3 Jun 2012 #74

Ron Paul bought UglyGreed Jun 2012 #79

I think most people own houses that are worth more than their entire net worth. Skinner Jun 2012 #80

Thanks for the reply UglyGreed Jun 2012 #84

Net worth = value of all assets minus outstanding debts Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #99

Ok got it UglyGreed Jun 2012 #105

Another naked emporor. marble falls Jun 2012 #76

Means test The Jungle 1 Jun 2012 #86

The man is Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #87

Since he was forced to pay for it, I don't think accepting it is hypocritical. ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #89

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #90

The outrage makes sense to me Tsiyu Jun 2012 #101

Lew Rockwell? Seriously?? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #103

Lew UglyGreed Jun 2012 #106

He paid in. he should be able to get that back. SnakeEyes Jun 2012 #94

When did cheques become "checks"? harmonicon Jun 2012 #95

'Check' is generally accepted as the American spelling; 'Cheque' is British. Prometheus Bound Jun 2012 #104

So as a guy in my early 30s, I should pay SS so people Paul's age can collect their payments today high density Jun 2012 #96

Are you SERIOUS? jade3000 Jun 2012 #97

little old man little old hypocrite Jerry Frey Jun 2012 #98

I. Do. Not. Understand. Tsiyu Jun 2012 #100

While working for over 60 years, he paid his dues to SS Ter Jun 2012 #109

Because it is a system he does not believe in and rails against? Rex Jun 2012 #111

Yes, but not if he put in already Ter Jun 2012 #113

Fuck Ron Paul. Rex Jun 2012 #110

HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jackass. trueblue2007 Jun 2012 #112