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In reply to the discussion: Emails in Clinton Probe Dealt With Planned Drone Strikes [View all]Gothmog
(181,437 posts)56. Yep, the "Top Secret" Emails Were All About Drones
The so-called "Top Secret" emails were all about NYT stories concerning drones and were in the public domain http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/02/yep-top-secret-emails-were-all-about-drones
So just what was in those "top secret" emails that Hillary Clinton received on her personal email server while she was Secretary of State? The New York Times reports what everyone has already figured out: they were about drones. What's more, the question of whether they contain anything that's actually sensitive is mostly just a spat between CIA and State:
The whole piece is worth reading for the details, but the bottom line is pretty simple: there's no there there. At most, there's a minuscule amount of slightly questionable reporting that was sent via emaila common practice since pretty much forever. Mostly, though, it seems to be a case of the CIA trying to bully State and win some kind of obscure pissing contest over whether they're sufficiently careful with the nation's secrets.
Some of the nations intelligence agencies raised alarms last spring as the State Department began releasing emails from Hillary Clintons private server, saying that a number of the messages contained information that should be classified top secret.
The diplomats saw things differently and pushed back at the spies. In the months since, a battle has played out between the State Department and the intelligence agencies.
....Several officials said that at least one of the emails contained oblique references to C.I.A. operatives. One of the messages has been given a designation of HCS-O indicating that the information was derived from human intelligence sources...The government officials said that discussions in an email thread about a New York Times article the officials did not say which article contained sensitive information about the intelligence surrounding the C.I.A.s drone activities, particularly in Pakistan.
The whole piece is worth reading for the details, but the bottom line is pretty simple: there's no there there. At most, there's a minuscule amount of slightly questionable reporting that was sent via emaila common practice since pretty much forever. Mostly, though, it seems to be a case of the CIA trying to bully State and win some kind of obscure pissing contest over whether they're sufficiently careful with the nation's secrets.
It is not against the law to read and talk about articles in NYT. Your wait for an indictment may be a very long one.
Heck even Trump has given up an indictment
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#10
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OnyxCollie
Jun 2016
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#68
So it should be easy to refute what the article said. Wait, no let's attack the source.
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#16
What you are doing is called making a Strawman then tearing it down. No one accused or said Hillary
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#20
No shit!.. Yes, I added a quote from the article that the OP neglected to include.
beastie boy
Jun 2016
#208
Yahoo.com is reprinting the WSJ article and giving WSJ full credit for it.
beastie boy
Jun 2016
#210
So they were unclassified as per a secret arrangement with the State Department and the CIA
Laser102
Jun 2016
#18
"sent via the “low side’’—government slang for a computer system for unclassified matters"
geek tragedy
Jun 2016
#25
That's an important point. She didn't just receive classified info on an unsecure server, she also
leveymg
Jun 2016
#130
Responsible for "vaguely stated" emails which "did not mention "CIA," "drones" or details about
beastie boy
Jun 2016
#100
The operative words in your post are "Some of those emails were not top secret when she got them but
2cannan
Jun 2016
#121
This is what Factcheck.org said the State Dept. report said about classified emails on Clinton's
2cannan
Jun 2016
#147
There are 3 systems: DOS NIPR email, Secure SIPR (to Secret), and Interagency JWICS (to TS/SAP)
leveymg
Jun 2016
#136
No. Saying that after-hours, she knowingly used only a nonsecure private system to send messages to
leveymg
Jun 2016
#193
No. She refused to touch a keyboard. She never directly accessessed the Secure SIPR.
leveymg
Jun 2016
#132
"These would be the ones provided/briefed B5" "Can they be secure faxed?" "Portions are classified"
leveymg
Jun 2016
#205
You didn't provide a link to your claim. I googled and only link was Fox news and a few RW Bloggers.
Fla Dem
Jun 2016
#175
Except that the Secretary of State receives the PDB Monday - Saturday and at least 50% of that comes
24601
Jun 2016
#103
You know, I thought I had read that before! Thank you Gothmog. It wasn't a senior moment. LOL
Laser102
Jun 2016
#67
You have to read the statutes to understand that intent is not a requirement for 18 USC 793(f).
leveymg
Jun 2016
#126
Yep. Transmiting "some emails" "which did not mention the "CIA," "drones" or details about
beastie boy
Jun 2016
#109
She was aware that her Blackberry and server were uncertified for classified info.
leveymg
Jun 2016
#137
These emails expose the USG decision-making process involved in targeted killings using drones
leveymg
Jun 2016
#128
If the emails contained discussions among US officials about targeted kills, they're classified.
leveymg
Jun 2016
#148
Once again, the emails in question DO NOT contain discussion about targeted kills.
beastie boy
Jun 2016
#151
Yes, we already know this. These have been discussed before. They are the emails that were also
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Jun 2016
#117