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137. She was aware that her Blackberry and server were uncertified for classified info.

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:17 AM

Jun 2016

NSA told her not to use her Blackberry, and when they refused to clone an Obama phone for her, she talked to to her lawyer and okayed the switchover from an ATT email to Clintonemail.com. That became manifestly illegal the moment the first classified message traversed the server, and that outcome was foreseeable by any reasonable person.

She even encouraged Blumenthal to "keep 'em coming" when he sent her information he identified as foreign government sourced, and forwarded them to others. Some of these messages were NSA and CIA sourced information illegally taken directly off the most highly classified Interagency System.

She was trained to recognize classified information, and knew she was supposed to report its mishandling or unauthorized transmission by others, but continued to continence repeated and systematic security breaches by others on her network. Sorry, that is a violation of felony law, 18 USC Sec. 793(f), to be precise.

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I hope Wall Street Journal is acceptable news source tomm2thumbs Jun 2016 #1

right wing trash n/t Mohammed_Lee Jun 2016 #3

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Intent? MFM008 Jun 2016 #7

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She lost a court battle on that issue and paid the fine without objection swhisper1 Jun 2016 #195

What "issue"? George II Jun 2016 #200

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Three weeks...three words...three minutes. libdem4life Jun 2016 #202

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Huh? libdem4life Jun 2016 #204

Clap harder. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #144

How about clapping for just some good, old fashioned truth. libdem4life Jun 2016 #206

So basically they were classified. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #2

Basically you don't know that. beastie boy Jun 2016 #87

Drone targets would be classified....Obviously! DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #89

"Vaguely worded" emails do not amount to drone strikes, do they? beastie boy Jun 2016 #91

The emails contained information on drone targets....Classified. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #93

And the article clearly identifies references to drone targets, right? beastie boy Jun 2016 #96

Classified info floats all over everyday. 1.4 million of us have TOP security clearance out of ancianita Jun 2016 #171

the fact that this was reported right after Obama endorsed Hillary is strange tomm2thumbs Jun 2016 #5

The start of the real, actual, damaging drip, drip, drip... -none Jun 2016 #13

agreed.....it's the beginning of the leaks that we were told would happen... grasswire Jun 2016 #27

It's deja vu all over again SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #101

Exactly maybe they were humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #83

No news combined with old news to keep Hillary in the news. beastie boy Jun 2016 #95

Is the information correct or not? -none Jun 2016 #125

The information is absolutely correct. beastie boy Jun 2016 #145

Seems that way. ozone_man Jun 2016 #24

I find it queer..also. One would think Obama endorsement laserhaas Jun 2016 #51

Maybe not to smear the Presidency, but to make a "heads up" regarding Clinton. Duval Jun 2016 #59

Are you saying the FBI doesn't even tell the President? Reter Jun 2016 #65

It is those independent career professionals at Justice. gordianot Jun 2016 #76

The Wall Street Journal is owned by the same man who owns FOX, Ruppert Murdoch. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #6

Yup. This guy RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #8

That's o.k. Time is our friend. June 16 is fast approaching. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #12

do you think that just because DU goes dark, the problem for HRC.. grasswire Jun 2016 #30

Dark ? DU is a community that supports Democratic causes. Hillary is our nominee and, therefore, Trust Buster Jun 2016 #33

but you want legitimate news to be censored here. grasswire Jun 2016 #35

You only wish to bash our nominee because your candidate did not win. You are fooling only Trust Buster Jun 2016 #39

Trump has all this by now. 840high Jun 2016 #57

Trump is not the one pushing this stuff on DU. Did I really have to point the obvious out ? Trust Buster Jun 2016 #61

grassfire makes a very good point. Duval Jun 2016 #62

Hardly legitimate. beastie boy Jun 2016 #90

she is not the nominee yet my friend swhisper1 Jun 2016 #196

That story has been in many other papers SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #108

Hahahahahahaha....actually that is scary, not funny. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #17

Your behavior is counter productive to the Democratic cause. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #21

Oh jeesh....counterproductive. Are you saying i should be happy to see her buddy buddying up with DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #22

The nomination has been decided. It's not about you. It's about our nominee. Time to grow up. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #23

Growing up led to something novel in me.....guess what that was? DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #26

There's that "me, me, me" again. DU is a "community" that supports Democratic causes. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #29

As far as I can tell Bernie has more support on this site now. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #38

No, he did not win the nomination. The Democratic voters chose Hillary to represent our cause. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #41

Oh so now its not a community, it takes its dictate from the DNC no matter how its membership feels? DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #42

You'll have to find someone else to carry on this nonproductive back and forth. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #43

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Why would i get over my "bitterness" until I'm treated more fairly by politicians who eat my tax DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #47

.+1 840high Jun 2016 #60

That is what my husband said during dinner. I agree. Duval Jun 2016 #66

not yet- are you feeling the SGs slipping into doubt yet, swhisper1 Jun 2016 #197

It isn't decided until the convention votes. nt grasswire Jun 2016 #31

No, it's been decided. That's why the President, Senator Warren and Governor O'malley officially Trust Buster Jun 2016 #36

She is the presumptive nominee. Duval Jun 2016 #64

if she was the nominee, there would be no superdelegates, no convention, no reason for any of it tomm2thumbs Jun 2016 #73

I could see Trump doing that! Duval Jun 2016 #159

Your behavior is undemocratic. 840high Jun 2016 #58

The Democrats I know outnumber the Deocrats that you know. And that's why Hillary is our nominee Trust Buster Jun 2016 #68

What does Sanders have to 840high Jun 2016 #77

You are the problem! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #110

+1 harun Jun 2016 #133

great questions tomm2thumbs Jun 2016 #11

Ooops So, it's beginning. nt Duval Jun 2016 #69

So it should be easy to refute what the article said. Wait, no let's attack the source. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #16

You're not use to that yet? laserhaas Jun 2016 #52

Really, Wall St Journal has been used as a source glowing Jun 2016 #19

You forgot this part: annavictorious Jun 2016 #9

maybe because someone in the FBI leaked to the WSJ? grasswire Jun 2016 #32

Or maybe not beastie boy Jun 2016 #97

News Articles videohead5 Jun 2016 #14

What you are doing is called making a Strawman then tearing it down. No one accused or said Hillary rhett o rick Jun 2016 #20

The article also mentioned beastie boy Jun 2016 #99

Elvis never did no drugs. n/t Matt_R Jun 2016 #182

No evidence he did in this WSJ article. beastie boy Jun 2016 #183

Your article link also does not have merit in this discussion. Matt_R Jun 2016 #189

LOL! My link refers to exactly the same article as the OP! beastie boy Jun 2016 #201

OK, your quoted words don't say the same the OP was trying to say. Matt_R Jun 2016 #207

No shit!.. Yes, I added a quote from the article that the OP neglected to include. beastie boy Jun 2016 #208

Still dont see how yahoo.com = wsj.com Matt_R Jun 2016 #209

Yahoo.com is reprinting the WSJ article and giving WSJ full credit for it. beastie boy Jun 2016 #210

So they were unclassified as per a secret arrangement with the State Department and the CIA Laser102 Jun 2016 #18

"sent via the �low side��government slang for a computer system for unclassified matters" geek tragedy Jun 2016 #25

No. grasswire Jun 2016 #34

That's an important point. She didn't just receive classified info on an unsecure server, she also leveymg Jun 2016 #130

Oh dear! Another shooting of the media messengers ... Jarqui Jun 2016 #37

State.gov videohead5 Jun 2016 #48

One sign of maturity is making 840high Jun 2016 #71

Responsible for "vaguely stated" emails which "did not mention "CIA," "drones" or details about beastie boy Jun 2016 #100

Thanks so much for this SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #40

Timing is Interesting: Also its bullcrap jzodda Jun 2016 #44

The operative words in your post are "Some of those emails were not top secret when she got them but 2cannan Jun 2016 #121

Again State disagreed with the classification jzodda Jun 2016 #122

This is what Factcheck.org said the State Dept. report said about classified emails on Clinton's 2cannan Jun 2016 #147

What exactly are we talking about here? jzodda Jun 2016 #149

He didn't intend to rob the bank arikara Jun 2016 #160

False Equivalence jzodda Jun 2016 #164

This all will come to naught. eom PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #49

Hillary Used a Secured System videohead5 Jun 2016 #55

She did not. 840high Jun 2016 #72

Not from a lack of asking apparently cstanleytech Jun 2016 #75

She Did videohead5 Jun 2016 #88

What way was that? NWCorona Jun 2016 #111

Secured Fax videohead5 Jun 2016 #112

There are 3 systems: DOS NIPR email, Secure SIPR (to Secret), and Interagency JWICS (to TS/SAP) leveymg Jun 2016 #136

So You Are Saying videohead5 Jun 2016 #161

No. Saying that after-hours, she knowingly used only a nonsecure private system to send messages to leveymg Jun 2016 #193

More about secure faxes and approved phones from DoD infosec manual leveymg Jun 2016 #198

Never Heard videohead5 Jun 2016 #213

..... 840high Jun 2016 #86

Wrong videohead5 Jun 2016 #94

No. She refused to touch a keyboard. She never directly accessessed the Secure SIPR. leveymg Jun 2016 #132

From Hillary's E-mails videohead5 Jun 2016 #178

Correction: she was dependent on aides to send and to receive. leveymg Jun 2016 #181

I Know videohead5 Jun 2016 #185

The work around they came up with was illegal. leveymg Jun 2016 #188

And Another videohead5 Jun 2016 #179

"These would be the ones provided/briefed B5" "Can they be secure faxed?" "Portions are classified" leveymg Jun 2016 #205

The E-mails About Drones videohead5 Jun 2016 #212

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #174

You didn't provide a link to your claim. I googled and only link was Fox news and a few RW Bloggers. Fla Dem Jun 2016 #175

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #176

What Right Wing Website? videohead5 Jun 2016 #177

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #180

Yep, the "Top Secret" Emails Were All About Drones Gothmog Jun 2016 #56

The State Department videohead5 Jun 2016 #63

Except that the Secretary of State receives the PDB Monday - Saturday and at least 50% of that comes 24601 Jun 2016 #103

It Depends videohead5 Jun 2016 #106

You know, I thought I had read that before! Thank you Gothmog. It wasn't a senior moment. LOL Laser102 Jun 2016 #67

Yep bunch of bullcrap jzodda Jun 2016 #74

I should have read the whole thread before posting OKNancy Jun 2016 #118

Thanks for the information, tomm2thumbs. senz Jun 2016 #78

The WSJ puts... Mike Nelson Jun 2016 #79

How can anyone say she has humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #80

Speculation videohead5 Jun 2016 #98

Right here. Deny and Shred Jun 2016 #129

Talking Points videohead5 Jun 2016 #163

Big Nothing Burger videohead5 Jun 2016 #165

You didn't include the subhead of the article. beastie boy Jun 2016 #81

If this is true, this will be a disaster for us. BlueNoMatterWho Jun 2016 #102

It's all true! beastie boy Jun 2016 #104

Nice concern you got there. Noted. Darb Jun 2016 #124

Thank you for posting. This clarifies a lot. leveymg Jun 2016 #105

Intent videohead5 Jun 2016 #107

You have to read the statutes to understand that intent is not a requirement for 18 USC 793(f). leveymg Jun 2016 #126

This has been sorely needed NJCher Jun 2016 #170

Yep. Transmiting "some emails" "which did not mention the "CIA," "drones" or details about beastie boy Jun 2016 #109

The Emails Did not Originate From Hillary videohead5 Jun 2016 #114

The responsibility Crepuscular Jun 2016 #134

She was aware that her Blackberry and server were uncertified for classified info. leveymg Jun 2016 #137

Are we still talking about the OP? beastie boy Jun 2016 #140

I am providing context. leveymg Jun 2016 #143

You need more than speculation to accuse someone of violating the law. beastie boy Jun 2016 #146

Thanks for clarifying. nt Duval Jun 2016 #158

concur Crepuscular Jun 2016 #187

State.gov videohead5 Jun 2016 #162

irrelevent Crepuscular Jun 2016 #186

She Will Not Be Indicted videohead5 Jun 2016 #190

... Crepuscular Jun 2016 #192

That Did Not Happen videohead5 Jun 2016 #211

Uh-huh. Crepuscular Jun 2016 #214

Calling The Kettle Black videohead5 Jun 2016 #215

These emails expose the USG decision-making process involved in targeted killings using drones leveymg Jun 2016 #128

These emails expose nothing other than WSJ spin. beastie boy Jun 2016 #139

If the emails contained discussions among US officials about targeted kills, they're classified. leveymg Jun 2016 #148

Once again, the emails in question DO NOT contain discussion about targeted kills. beastie boy Jun 2016 #151

Your statement is directly contrary to the following paragraph in the WSJ leveymg Jun 2016 #153

You are speculating. And your speculations are based on hearsay. beastie boy Jun 2016 #155

I'm glad we've gotten past the "intent" issue, anyway. leveymg Jun 2016 #156

Far cry from your Post 105 beastie boy Jun 2016 #157

The Question is videohead5 Jun 2016 #116

Yes, we already know this. These have been discussed before. They are the emails that were also OKNancy Jun 2016 #117

Do you have any link to where that info was out first ? Thanks OnDoutside Jun 2016 #127

posted in this thread OKNancy Jun 2016 #131

Thanks OnDoutside Jun 2016 #154

I think we can all agree whistler162 Jun 2016 #135

At least. leveymg Jun 2016 #138

I wonder if this was cross posted at free republic. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #142

It's all part of a vast RW conspiracy. Hillary brought none of this on herself. Exonerated! leveymg Jun 2016 #152

Doesn't surprise me. Nt Herman4747 Jun 2016 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author George Eliot Jun 2016 #172

This message was self-deleted by its author George Eliot Jun 2016 #173

Amazing how popular the right-wing sources are oberliner Jun 2016 #184

this thread has decended into idiocy, lets close it down swhisper1 Jun 2016 #199

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #191