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senz

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137. We've had global trade for hundreds of years.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:21 PM
Jun 2016

What the TPP will do, and NAFTA, GATT/WTO have done, is to remove the legal right of democratically elected governments to protect the well-being of their own citizens, and this includes environmental protections.

These "trade" agreements put private, unelected, unaccountable corporations in charge of everything. It destroys democracy.

If this sounds good to you, then you are a Republican, at best. Most likely a corporatist, an enemy of those who founded this country.

Eat your peas, Sander. merrily Apr 2015 #1
If E.F.F. is against it, I'm against it. TheBlackAdder Apr 2015 #51
I like peas. DCBob Apr 2015 #107
Turncoat SamKnause Apr 2015 #2
But isn't this what he promised to do? Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #28
+1. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #79
No. The notion that Democratic voters voted for the TPP is too ludicrous to merrily Apr 2015 #90
ok but here is a link to the official 2012 Democratic Party platform where it supports TPP Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #110
You realize there was no primary in 2012, right? Obama v. Romney, right? merrily Apr 2015 #111
Ok I guess you're right. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #113
You would have to ask the Party and labor union executives that. People I know wanted a primary. merrily Apr 2015 #124
Well whatever the problem was, we seem to still have it Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #125
Seeing through smoke screens is a good skill. merrily Apr 2015 #126
NO! He ran on renegotiating NAFTA!!!! cascadiance Apr 2015 #96
I had the same reaction, but have edited my post. merrily Apr 2015 #100
Sorry, I was right about cheese sandwich the first time and so are you. merrily Apr 2015 #112
Yeah I probably was just in error Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #114
He also promised to renegotiate NAFTA, too, but we didn't get that. n/t amandabeech Apr 2015 #115
I keep flashing back to this Onion story that ran right after he was elected in 2008: woo me with science Apr 2015 #123
I called Gillibrand... iandhr Apr 2015 #3
Amen..... daleanime Apr 2015 #60
"We stopped the President from bombing Syria." NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #77
i don't mean DU iandhr Apr 2015 #81
If Obama intended to bomb Syria ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #82
Exactly, Nance.. they should stick to taking credit when it's due.. EarlG got it.. Cha Apr 2015 #88
^Post of the day^ Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #89
.. Cha Apr 2015 #92
You should see his posts from August-September, 2013 n/t Scootaloo Apr 2015 #101
No need to tamp down the violence in Syria jakeXT Apr 2015 #109
No outcry from this nation merrily Apr 2015 #91
Obama states the problem well, but offers the wrong solution: JDPriestly Apr 2015 #4
+1 Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #108
Not going to happen with the Japanese. amandabeech Apr 2015 #116
n/t KoKo Apr 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #6
Right because that vigorous fight for healthcare reform doesn't count at all! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #8
The vigorous fight for healthcare reform was Great for the insurance companies, no public option bahrbearian Apr 2015 #20
Biggest Disappointment Ever Ned Flanders Apr 2015 #39
Disappointment? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #59
It was great for me too during the 4 months I was unemployed last year... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #55
I love giving my money to insurance company CEO's, I have no Choice. bahrbearian Apr 2015 #64
I like having healthcare when I am unemployed...thanks! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #65
Public option bahrbearian Apr 2015 #66
So? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #67
Yay, RomneyCare/BobDoleCare blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #73
Also, too, Hillarycare (1990s). :) Larry Engels Apr 2015 #80
That would be what created "BobDoleCare" jeff47 Apr 2015 #83
Yes a fight we lost. zeemike Apr 2015 #41
Where did we lose? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #56
Well that is pretty much a losers attitude. zeemike Apr 2015 #72
Yep. I knew each time when he feigned impotence, and cried crocodile tears. It was always GoneFishin Apr 2015 #23
Exactly.. sendero Apr 2015 #50
Do you people STILL call yourselves Democrats? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #58
Yeah. "Democratic". Do you still call yourself democratic? Because a democratic system GoneFishin Apr 2015 #70
enough of this WE shit Skittles Apr 2015 #69
Sad to say I was. Big time, and for a lot of $$. merrily Apr 2015 #93
Absolutely - 840high Apr 2015 #85
He can coast for life now, and elehhhhna Apr 2015 #128
I know it. After he voted to retroactively immunize the telecomms from breaking laws that would GoneFishin Apr 2015 #130
...! I took "Level" the Global Economy to mean Disaster..which I think it is...n/t KoKo Apr 2015 #7
I had the exact same thought: I don't want to be on THAT level!! arcane1 Apr 2015 #30
yep. interesting choice of words to be sure. frylock Apr 2015 #33
Call your Senators, Representatives and Whitehouse to express your opposition to this global Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #9
Mr. President sir, asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #10
Exactly, asiliveandbreathe, jomin41 Apr 2015 #14
It is nice that it levels the playing field between the US and India and China and others LiberalArkie Apr 2015 #11
That platform reads like it was written by an angry 12-year-old, while grounded in his room. arcane1 Apr 2015 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #12
Good for Vietnam... jtuck004 Apr 2015 #13
Didn't you get the memo.... haikugal Apr 2015 #102
Ironic. Carter said we were hurting ourselves with our profligate spending, suggested we jtuck004 Apr 2015 #103
Irony indeed... nt haikugal Apr 2015 #104
And NAFTA was going to save Americans' jobs. LiberalEsto Apr 2015 #15
Democrats were probably very happy to have THAT third party candidate on the ballot. merrily Apr 2015 #94
It will "Level" it all right Demeter Apr 2015 #16
That is exactly right. zeemike Apr 2015 #45
+1. Level to rubble is exactly what I thought. This country isn't qualified to operate appalachiablue Apr 2015 #84
+1 840high Apr 2015 #86
Oh yippee, the change we hoped for! polichick Apr 2015 #17
A seat at the table Geronimoe Apr 2015 #18
...a giant sucking sound. SoapBox Apr 2015 #19
My way or no way doesn't fly with me at all. Fair trade, YES! Corporate Sovereignty, NO!!! Kip Humphrey Apr 2015 #21
"It Would Level Global Commerce" Punx Apr 2015 #22
That last thing you said. 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #25
it will standardize it at Bangladesh levels Doctor_J Apr 2015 #36
Exactly. LiberalLoner Apr 2015 #40
you left out Phlem Apr 2015 #78
Level global commerce. You mean like this? hedda_foil Apr 2015 #87
Corporatization of the world tomsaiditagain Apr 2015 #24
I sure HOPE the prez. CHANGEs his mind ASAP 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #26
Why not release the details of the TPP so it can be fairly evaluated by the people still_one Apr 2015 #27
And I hope that the Unions sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #29
Level global wages is more like it. Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #31
Do not forget donnasgirl Apr 2015 #43
And the 12-hour work day 7 days a week. n/t Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #46
It will level us all under the steamroller of global corporate rule FiveGoodMen Apr 2015 #32
greatest, most liberal president in history Doctor_J Apr 2015 #35
non-lame duck president kicks ass!!!11!11! Doctor_J Apr 2015 #37
This is the same bullshit Clinton peddled with NAFTA DebbieCDC Apr 2015 #38
He will bring balance to the force. Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #42
Level Global Commerce???? bvar22 Apr 2015 #44
Does that mean the U.S. would get their jobs back? valerief Apr 2015 #47
I called Baldwin, Johnson and Pocan Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #48
The differences between the parties are so clear and dramatic that it's hard to see how anyone who MisterP Apr 2015 #49
More "change" we can believe in. democrank Apr 2015 #52
Obama may dismiss foes of TPP Thespian2 Apr 2015 #53
"Make me do it." "Eat your peas." "Obama dismisses his critics." merrily Apr 2015 #99
Takes guts and commitment to tell a lot of Democrats who are either misinformed or playing politics Hoyt Apr 2015 #54
Amen, Hoyt!!!! rury Apr 2015 #61
I'm even more convinced Obama is going to do the right thing. Joe Turner Apr 2015 #127
Nope, foreign corporations can't trump US law... NAFTa which has the same provision Hoyt Apr 2015 #129
Probably the best indication you're actually a Republican posting on a Democratic site. n/t brentspeak Apr 2015 #131
Right. Trusting Obama is being a Republican. You have anything substantive to say? Hoyt Apr 2015 #133
Yes: The GOP, the US Chamber of Commerce, and the Heritage Foundation all trust brentspeak Apr 2015 #134
Well, you seem to be on the side of low info Tbaggers on this one. So what does that tell you? Hoyt Apr 2015 #135
I wish he had fought this hard for the public option. The Chamber of Commerce owns Obama. Skeeter Barnes Apr 2015 #57
takes guts to stand up there . . FairWinds Apr 2015 #62
And Elizabeth Warren and other critics are proving that. Hoyt Apr 2015 #63
That's the problem madville Apr 2015 #68
The TPP is a betrayal of the American working people. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #71
http://cdn1.godfatherpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/obama-pinocchio.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #74
From a right wing web site. Christ. Hoyt Apr 2015 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Apr 2015 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Apr 2015 #98
This puts the lie to any inkling of a notion that Obama is 'Progressive:' Maedhros Apr 2015 #76
That started to be exposed when he appointd Rahm and the hits have just kept coming. merrily Apr 2015 #95
The TPP is progress. DCBob Apr 2015 #106
And why are the huge trade deficit and huge job losses of free trade treaties "good" for us... cascadiance Apr 2015 #117
because people tend to buy the cheapest product no matter where its made. DCBob Apr 2015 #119
They are forced to do this by the coordinated effort to also steal their wages too at the same time! cascadiance Apr 2015 #120
I agree many feel forced into survival mode. DCBob Apr 2015 #122
Yes, I thank NAFTA and CAFTA everyday for me not living in a cave brentspeak Apr 2015 #132
We've had global trade for hundreds of years. senz Jun 2016 #137
So....tell me if I'm off-base here Novara Apr 2015 #105
I like he used the phrase "Leveling global commerce". christx30 Apr 2015 #118
Bullshit! ananda Apr 2015 #121
Obama needs to sumbit to lengthy questioning on the TPP RussBLib Apr 2015 #136
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