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184. It's true. But, as is obvious, the Establishment picks both the candidate

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 02:29 PM

Jun 2016

and the "leading the nation" part. I'm more convinced than ever that the President is increasingly just a token leader Not saying it doesn't count...the Bully Pulpit is still in use and has power. But it must be used with caution...and probably pre-approved by Beltway Edict.

The National Committees, especially the DNC. are the only favorability rating that counts. Dems have the SDs to keep the peasants in line. Republicans...don't know...but they will find a way to get rid of Trump, I have no doubt. He is beyond embarrassing and a wake-up call as to what "the real base" wants. Their Peasant Group, i.e. the Tea Party, went a long ways into their Establishment, but the Long Knives are out now.

I think this is going to be an election season to Really Remember.

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then no prime time speaking slot during the convention, fair is fair geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1

And get rid of his seniority in the Senate Renew Deal Jun 2016 #5

Really? FFS... deadchicken7 Jun 2016 #26

You only have 4 posts and your screen name is deadchicken.. pangaia Jun 2016 #30

Hiya deadchicken7 Jun 2016 #46

Good read. Well said. pangaia Jun 2016 #52

Great rant, thank you. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #62

excellent mahannah Jun 2016 #69

Excellent rant. 840high Jun 2016 #89

Well and nuff said. nt chknltl Jun 2016 #93

Wow, thanks for posting! samson212 Jun 2016 #115

6 years here and only 6 posts. I admire your restraint. And your thoughts when you do post! FailureToCommunicate Jun 2016 #188

... LOL! JudyM Jun 2016 #71

Thank you! Paka Jun 2016 #72

Sanders just being a Jerk: the campaign was about him and Jane only lewebley3 Jun 2016 #165

the campaign was about him and Jane only AlbertCat Jun 2016 #171

This one's a lost cause. libdem4life Jun 2016 #174

You're a mindless shallow being to have that attitude which ignores reality. He won 47% of dem votes bjobotts Jun 2016 #175

+1000 mindless, shallow being noiretextatique Jun 2016 #191

You are ignoring reality: Sanders was rejected by a large majority of the people. lewebley3 Jun 2016 #199

Go get em...dead or alive !!! libdem4life Jun 2016 #173

thank you. spot on swhisper1 Jun 2016 #179

And who is that going to hurt? Doctor_J Jun 2016 #111

Explain please roody Jun 2016 #132

Sander was not supported by Senators because he is so self centered. lewebley3 Jun 2016 #166

Here's another one...where do you get these? Sanders works fine libdem4life Jun 2016 #176

Sanders gained much bigger swelled head , the more famous he became. He lewebley3 Jun 2016 #201

As I thought...blather on. libdem4life Jun 2016 #203

my God do some homework. The Senate is very fond of Bernie. He got amendments through for them swhisper1 Jun 2016 #181

The wouldn't support him: even the Senator from VT nor the Governor of VT lewebley3 Jun 2016 #198

What a crappy comment. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #194

Convention is going to be a 'sleeper' with most likely the lowest Purveyor Jun 2016 #6

Obama, Biden, Bill, Warren, nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #7

Ah, come on. Only two very popular Democratic presidents? Who would tune in for that? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #8

Obama's final big speech in office, I imagine he'll bring his A game geek tragedy Jun 2016 #12

haha, no kidding TwilightZone Jun 2016 #17

And where's Carter greiner3 Jun 2016 #67

Did he endorse? nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #76

He must like to make stuff up. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #105

with a possibly floor fight PatrynXX Jun 2016 #109

I thought it was the Bernie people seabeckind Jun 2016 #54

Hillary was criticized during the primary. The primary is over in 78 minutes. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #57

Aww gee, I always learned that the convention seabeckind Jun 2016 #59

have you been asleep the past 28 years? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #64

Ahh, the argument to tradition. seabeckind Jun 2016 #70

presumptive nominee means the same thing as president-elect geek tragedy Jun 2016 #75

No it doesn't seabeckind Jun 2016 #80

lol, yes the president elect is the person who won the voting, i.e. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #84

Good for you. seabeckind Jun 2016 #86

all delegates vote at the convention, just like all members of the electoral college geek tragedy Jun 2016 #94

Aww, can't do the math cause the asterisks cause you problems? seabeckind Jun 2016 #100

I do math just fine. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #108

Wow ... It takes a special pair for that poster ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #149

people who are never wrong about anything tend to develop an ego nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #150

LOL. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #152

It's called democracy lanlady Jun 2016 #192

That isn't what the rules say. seabeckind Jun 2016 #195

They will hold a vote to see who is the winner. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #125

Clinton won. She won the voting. It's over. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #145

All he has to do is give up any leverage he has to then go fight for his issues in the platform. Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #142

Exactly! mountain grammy Jun 2016 #143

Clinton didn't cut a deal to become Secretary of State. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #144

She cut a deal to become Secretary of State AND for Obama to pay off her millions in campaign debt. w4rma Jun 2016 #153

You are right: Sander seems have a swelled head: he lost by a lot lewebley3 Jun 2016 #168

revisionist history I think swhisper1 Jun 2016 #182

Sanders has lost any being a jerk: he is all about Sanders lewebley3 Jun 2016 #167

Hillary supporters calls for REVENGE� are comical AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #137

Sanders showing he has no understanding that the American people are fighting lewebley3 Jun 2016 #169

Corporatism = Fascism AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #172

fascism=equals Trump: He doesn't want the people to rule: he wants to rule alone lewebley3 Jun 2016 #200

Fascism. Brilliant. Like all others. libdem4life Jun 2016 #177

Yeah, give that spot to Henry Kissinger instead! Herman4747 Jun 2016 #163

She has worked hard for the American people lewebley3 Jun 2016 #170

when? doing what? I'm speechless swhisper1 Jun 2016 #183

Too much work done to not move on... midnight Jun 2016 #2

Bernie, and we, are in it to win it RobertEarl Jun 2016 #63

Yes. nt Duval Jun 2016 #73

Who? Oh him? He's still running? bluestateguy Jun 2016 #3

The Primary is Not Over in Cali McKim Jun 2016 #114

But it's over everywhere else, so California is a mathematical footnote Orrex Jun 2016 #160

Another Sanders ego outburst. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #4

no, it is about the rejuvenation of the Democratic party.... virtualobserver Jun 2016 #9

When did he start caring about the party? Renew Deal Jun 2016 #10

Right. It's the Democratic Party, not the democratic socialist party. stopbush Jun 2016 #25

That's disingenuous deadchicken7 Jun 2016 #34

That is simply not true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #151

An �ber progressive party? choie Jun 2016 #36

Really? Clinton and Obama did nothing for the lower and middle classes? stopbush Jun 2016 #40

The Democrat party? That's what republicans call it. fbc Jun 2016 #39

Typo. Fixed it. Yeah, that drives me crazy as well. stopbush Jun 2016 #41

FDR did that once, ozone_man Jun 2016 #123

Big tent, yah right... arikara Jun 2016 #189

You mean the unsourced article about Bernie? virtualobserver Jun 2016 #127

How is allowing Republicans to vote in a Democratic primary livetohike Jun 2016 #50

Why have restrictions to any voting greiner3 Jun 2016 #74

If one wants to vote for the Democratic candidate in the livetohike Jun 2016 #82

Sure only Democrats should vote in our primary, just let anyone change their registration All in it together Jun 2016 #157

It's called a Primary. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #112

True, but... druidity33 Jun 2016 #141

Independent sort of means "independent," though Orrex Jun 2016 #164

"there's no reason at all to let them participate" druidity33 Jun 2016 #193

Your objection doesn't make sense Orrex Jun 2016 #196

No, It has absolutely nothing to do with him. pangaia Jun 2016 #31

Winning at least 46% of Dem votes Geronimoe Jun 2016 #11

He didn't win 46% of Democratic votes. George II Jun 2016 #14

42% Renew Deal Jun 2016 #15

29% is old data. Dems are at 36% and have been the largest voting bloc in the US since December TwilightZone Jun 2016 #18

Hold on a minute frazzled Jun 2016 #21

I resent you calling me a 'minion.' It is insulting and cheap. pangaia Jun 2016 #35

Clinton got to be Secretary of State choie Jun 2016 #37

This isn't a fucking basketball game choie Jun 2016 #38

+ 1 Beat me to it. I detest sports analogies and beat to death pop terms. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author McKim Jun 2016 #116

I Very Much Resent the Sports Analogy McKim Jun 2016 #117

Well said pandr32 Jun 2016 #44

Your second to last paragraph is a real winner. Three insults for the price of one. Sanders' Gene Debs Jun 2016 #107

Sorry but to be honest coming in 2nd no matter what % you are at usually is just a cstanleytech Jun 2016 #47

Yes, I can tell you are very sorry. Wednesdays Jun 2016 #53

Yes and I can tell how well you will fit once the new DU rules............or can I? cstanleytech Jun 2016 #77

DU rules notwithstanding greiner3 Jun 2016 #90

When you joined did you even bother reading the rules for the DU? cstanleytech Jun 2016 #129

So says the guy who never wanted to be a Democrat. George II Jun 2016 #13

GOOD. n/t Triana Jun 2016 #16

Playing this tune on repeat: Saviolo Jun 2016 #19

he's only making himself irrelevant MariaThinks Jun 2016 #20

+1! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #78

Why are Hillary and her supporters almost beside themselves with Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #185

Democratic primaries should be open to Republicans? oberliner Jun 2016 #22

It does seem like a good idea jiminvegas Jun 2016 #45

Exactly oberliner Jun 2016 #147

umm are you actually promoting the Operation Chaos theory? azurnoir Jun 2016 #51

I am promoting the theory that Republicans shouldn't vote in Democratic primaries oberliner Jun 2016 #55

again that Republicans will vote in Democratic primaries in such great numbers to choose who azurnoir Jun 2016 #81

I don't think Republicans should vote in Democratic primaries in any numbers oberliner Jun 2016 #87

There actually is no way to stop small numbers from either party cross voting azurnoir Jun 2016 #95

Yes, there is oberliner Jun 2016 #146

IOW requiring one to declare your political leanings on a government form azurnoir Jun 2016 #161

How quaint! Orrex Jun 2016 #197

Praying for a FBI intervention?????? Cryptoad Jun 2016 #23

Meh. Don't care anymore. Adrahil Jun 2016 #24

The window is closed. stopbush Jun 2016 #27

It worked for Hillary in 2008 padfun Jun 2016 #88

Clinton conceded June 7, 2008 Adrahil Jun 2016 #98

OK, my bad padfun Jun 2016 #102

"pretty far behind" = Hillary slightly up in the popular vote and less than 100 behind in delegates forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #148

Only if you use Hillary Math padfun Jun 2016 #158

"The time is long overdue for a fundamental transformation of the Democratic Party" arcane1 Jun 2016 #28

lets not operate on rumors MFM008 Jun 2016 #29

If he's switched from campaigning to promoting Party reform, procon Jun 2016 #32

Agreed pandr32 Jun 2016 #43

We've all moved on. No one is going to pay any attention to him. He'll look sad and alone. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #33

Don't Kid Yourself McKim Jun 2016 #119

Only 16 Recs? Good! Night Watchman Jun 2016 #42

I just made it 26 Fuddnik Jun 2016 #49

I rec'd it for you dreamnightwind Jun 2016 #58

I made it 49 recs. 840high Jun 2016 #91

good for him and as he darn well should, but Hillary supporters like things as they are stupidicus Jun 2016 #48

I think it's getting much harder to tell them apart. n/t seabeckind Jun 2016 #56

yep, and has been for quite some time now stupidicus Jun 2016 #96

Yes it is. 840high Jun 2016 #103

He doesn't have to concede. He LOST!!! If he is going to be nasty, then he gets nothing!! Laser102 Jun 2016 #60

Nasty? Like wanting: seabeckind Jun 2016 #66

Let's start with the acknowledgement that he lost. All of the issues you mention will be in the Laser102 Jun 2016 #79

But he hasn't lost, has he? seabeckind Jun 2016 #83

I assume the platform will have the same values and ideals that make us democrats. The point is Laser102 Jun 2016 #120

Militant? Seriously? seabeckind Jun 2016 #128

No, I expect Senator Sanders, Mrs. Clinton, Biden, Obama, all of our great people to work together. Sunlei Jun 2016 #101

There's only 1 candidate peeing 840high Jun 2016 #104

Yes. I know. Laser102 Jun 2016 #121

Open all primaries to REPUBLICANS? LisaM Jun 2016 #61

Hillary will still be the nominee, and the Democratic Party will still go on regardless. He lost still_one Jun 2016 #65

Who? Metric System Jun 2016 #68

So we keep the same old guff sangfroid Jun 2016 #85

It won't sway me. 840high Jun 2016 #106

In the immortal words Ferris Buehler Danmel Jun 2016 #97

Good for Bernie! The people's champion. jalan48 Jun 2016 #99

I'm sure her ridiculous speech yesterday didn't do much to win his support Doctor_J Jun 2016 #110

. RandySF Jun 2016 #113

LOL! Laser102 Jun 2016 #122

Saying shit like "long overdue" is disingenuous from a guy who avoided any political party until it TeamPooka Jun 2016 #118

Thank You Bernie!!!!! Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #124

May I suggest that you not just read headlines... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #126

I'd be a bit more sympathetic if he'd been a Democrat for longer anigbrowl Jun 2016 #130

He's more of a sterling example of traditional Democratic values than anyone else running, whether Gene Debs Jun 2016 #133

He definitely is, Bernie never campaigned for Republican Presidential candidates. mrr303am Jun 2016 #138

The substance of the article doesn't seem to match the title Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #131

I respect Bernie's dedication. Sand Rat Expat Jun 2016 #134

Totally Agree carburyme Jun 2016 #162

"No plans to concede defeat." SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #135

Good. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #136

"to the stars and beyond!" hopemountain Jun 2016 #139

It's obvious. Bernie is waiting for the indictment. DrBulldog Jun 2016 #140

Ok , lets move forward. apcalc Jun 2016 #154

Why? Does he want to squeeze in one more European vacation? RandySF Jun 2016 #155

He should drop out in exchange for what? rocktivity Jun 2016 #156

bernie is behaving like a spoiled brat throwing a temper tantrum. it is not attractive. niyad Jun 2016 #159

Say and scoff and whatever all you will, but a good percentage of the libdem4life Jun 2016 #178

A good percentage of the people want another choice. FFS both presumps have negative ratings over Purveyor Jun 2016 #180

It's true. But, as is obvious, the Establishment picks both the candidate libdem4life Jun 2016 #184

Go Bernie maindawg Jun 2016 #186

He has said he'll do everything to stop Trump... ConsiderThis_2016 Jun 2016 #187

he planted his flag with the people long ago swhisper1 Jun 2016 #202

I'm so use to Democrats capitulating on everything Geronimoe Jun 2016 #190