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In reply to the discussion: Sanders Rebuffs Pressure to Drop Bid as Clinton Meeting Set [View all]Orrex
(63,210 posts)196. Your objection doesn't make sense
If people want to join the party, then they are welcome. If they are not in the party, then why should they get to steer the party's course? I can't think of a single good justification for that.
It's the ol' "milk and the cow" situation: the privilege of voting for a nominee comes with membership in the party, at least in closed-election states, so if you give non-members that privilege, then why would they join?
They'll be voting for one candidate or the other, might as well give them the incentive to vote for ours...
Well, yes and no. They probably won't be voting "for one candidate or the other." They'll most likely be voting for the candidate that they picked for themselves months in advance of the election. And as far as giving "them the incentive to vote for ours," well, the other party would have the exact same option and opportunity, so the incentive from either side cancels out the other's.
I confess, though, that when you frame it as a scramble to placate the so-called Independents, you're buying into exactly what people suspect about Independents, that they want it to be "all about them," and to hell with the party that won't adequately prostrate itself before them.
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6 years here and only 6 posts. I admire your restraint. And your thoughts when you do post!
FailureToCommunicate
Jun 2016
#188
You're a mindless shallow being to have that attitude which ignores reality. He won 47% of dem votes
bjobotts
Jun 2016
#175
You are ignoring reality: Sanders was rejected by a large majority of the people.
lewebley3
Jun 2016
#199
my God do some homework. The Senate is very fond of Bernie. He got amendments through for them
swhisper1
Jun 2016
#181
Ah, come on. Only two very popular Democratic presidents? Who would tune in for that?
TwilightZone
Jun 2016
#8
Hillary was criticized during the primary. The primary is over in 78 minutes.
geek tragedy
Jun 2016
#57
all delegates vote at the convention, just like all members of the electoral college
geek tragedy
Jun 2016
#94
All he has to do is give up any leverage he has to then go fight for his issues in the platform.
Dustlawyer
Jun 2016
#142
She cut a deal to become Secretary of State AND for Obama to pay off her millions in campaign debt.
w4rma
Jun 2016
#153
Sanders showing he has no understanding that the American people are fighting
lewebley3
Jun 2016
#169
fascism=equals Trump: He doesn't want the people to rule: he wants to rule alone
lewebley3
Jun 2016
#200
Sure only Democrats should vote in our primary, just let anyone change their registration
All in it together
Jun 2016
#157
29% is old data. Dems are at 36% and have been the largest voting bloc in the US since December
TwilightZone
Jun 2016
#18
+ 1 Beat me to it. I detest sports analogies and beat to death pop terms.
appalachiablue
Jun 2016
#92
Your second to last paragraph is a real winner. Three insults for the price of one. Sanders'
Gene Debs
Jun 2016
#107
Sorry but to be honest coming in 2nd no matter what % you are at usually is just a
cstanleytech
Jun 2016
#47
Yes and I can tell how well you will fit once the new DU rules............or can I?
cstanleytech
Jun 2016
#77
I am promoting the theory that Republicans shouldn't vote in Democratic primaries
oberliner
Jun 2016
#55
again that Republicans will vote in Democratic primaries in such great numbers to choose who
azurnoir
Jun 2016
#81
"pretty far behind" = Hillary slightly up in the popular vote and less than 100 behind in delegates
forjusticethunders
Jun 2016
#148
"The time is long overdue for a fundamental transformation of the Democratic Party"
arcane1
Jun 2016
#28
We've all moved on. No one is going to pay any attention to him. He'll look sad and alone.
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#33
good for him and as he darn well should, but Hillary supporters like things as they are
stupidicus
Jun 2016
#48
He doesn't have to concede. He LOST!!! If he is going to be nasty, then he gets nothing!!
Laser102
Jun 2016
#60
Let's start with the acknowledgement that he lost. All of the issues you mention will be in the
Laser102
Jun 2016
#79
I assume the platform will have the same values and ideals that make us democrats. The point is
Laser102
Jun 2016
#120
No, I expect Senator Sanders, Mrs. Clinton, Biden, Obama, all of our great people to work together.
Sunlei
Jun 2016
#101
Hillary will still be the nominee, and the Democratic Party will still go on regardless. He lost
still_one
Jun 2016
#65
Saying shit like "long overdue" is disingenuous from a guy who avoided any political party until it
TeamPooka
Jun 2016
#118
He's more of a sterling example of traditional Democratic values than anyone else running, whether
Gene Debs
Jun 2016
#133
He definitely is, Bernie never campaigned for Republican Presidential candidates.
mrr303am
Jun 2016
#138
bernie is behaving like a spoiled brat throwing a temper tantrum. it is not attractive.
niyad
Jun 2016
#159