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NNadir

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11. If one uses one's own freezer to generate the ice, one will have a thermodynamic nightmare.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:40 AM
Jun 2016

I used to do this when I was a child, put a swamp cooler filled with ice in my window. (My parents were not educated, and thought this was a good idea.) Later, when I grew up and became a scientist, I realized why I was always sweltering as a child no matter how much ice I put in the cooler. My room was over the kitchen where the ice was made in the freezer. A refrigerator/freezer is a heat pump, and discharges heat, actually more heat than the heat content of the water, since an electric motor drives the pump and also discharges heat.

Under the right circumstances, one is actually heating one's home by doing this.

If one has cool nights, and one freezes the water at night, the situation is different, of course, but I doubt that 120F days are going to lead to 70F nights.

An air conditioner is also a heat pump, but is designed to pump the heat outside. The use of air conditioners actually makes the outdoors hotter, and is one factor in the existence of urban "heat islands."

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Bad news for the firefighters in Southern California. Stay safe!! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #1
Rare climate extremes... orwell Jun 2016 #2
And my air conditioner is broke HubertHeaver Jun 2016 #3
I picked up a 9,000 BTU portable AC at a yard sale for $25 a couple of weeks ago.. Fumesucker Jun 2016 #6
those work great Dhantesvz Jun 2016 #8
The AC standard in AZ is to set the temp to 78° L. Coyote Jun 2016 #14
68 dbackjon Jun 2016 #32
That's the winter heat setting. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #33
78 here in soupy-humid Georgia, Hortensis Jun 2016 #36
I used to have a similar model CelticWarrior1 Jun 2016 #10
Thanks for the suggestion. HubertHeaver Jun 2016 #13
Cool Yourself Without Air Conditioning jtuck004 Jun 2016 #4
Get a portable swamp cooler, they use less power than AC. diane in sf Jun 2016 #5
If one uses one's own freezer to generate the ice, one will have a thermodynamic nightmare. NNadir Jun 2016 #11
These are great suggestions. HubertHeaver Jun 2016 #15
It is gonna get deadly hot, and how is the time to get ready. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2016 #21
Make your own AC unit... haele Jun 2016 #18
meanwhile in milwaukee it barely got to 70f today, pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #7
Wish that I could send the arid West BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #9
Republican denial of climate chaos remains the ultimate, stupid danger... Scientific Jun 2016 #12
So, we'll need to generate more power and that means more pollution and more global warming L. Coyote Jun 2016 #16
I think that 'heat' is negligible ... brett_jv Jun 2016 #41
I was hoping for more than a guess. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #45
a VERY good time to live on the coast... dhill926 Jun 2016 #17
Not so rare in the coming years, I'm afraid.... NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #19
Yep sofa king Jun 2016 #22
Expecting 105 in Pasadena CA PasadenaTrudy Jun 2016 #20
Bull - Miami is out of the playoffs and hasn't been dangerous since LeBron returned to Cleveland 24601 Jun 2016 #23
Hee hee... PasadenaTrudy Jun 2016 #27
Phoenix 1.5 million? Try 4.2 million. As if they need more of a heat island. SaintLouisBlues Jun 2016 #24
City of Phoenix is 1.5 million dbackjon Jun 2016 #31
Not really all that rare. B2G Jun 2016 #25
No, it's not. June is the hottest month here in the desert southwest Warpy Jun 2016 #26
I love Oct. in the 505 PasadenaTrudy Jun 2016 #28
My first trip out here was last week of September, first week of October Warpy Jun 2016 #29
Technically not quite true ... brett_jv Jun 2016 #42
I spent the past week camping in the Mojave at low elevation... mike_c Jun 2016 #30
Would love to hear about it. Hortensis Jun 2016 #37
We have 2 large fires going on now in NM womanofthehills Jun 2016 #34
You're relatively high in elevation, I imagine. Hortensis Jun 2016 #38
"It's a Dry Heat" Night Watchman Jun 2016 #35
Has anyone calculated how much heat the air conditioning of Phoenix Metro produces? L. Coyote Jun 2016 #39
As I mentioned above, it's likely not that much ... brett_jv Jun 2016 #43
The heat in Phoenix is not rare. former9thward Jun 2016 #40
Please check on your neighbor's animals, that they aren't tied outside adigal Jun 2016 #44
There are two houses in our rural area that I always keep an eye on both in the summer and winter. Purveyor Jun 2016 #47
Thank goodness you do! People can be so cruel. Nt adigal Jun 2016 #48
Severe heat wave in WI last few days also riversedge Jun 2016 #46
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