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57. President Carter probably would have won reelection in 1980

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 04:36 PM

Jun 2016

after the first debate when Ronald Reagan, without a teleprompter in front of him, lost that first debate and looked very bad.
After that debate, Carter was ahead of Reagan in all the polls.

But the "Reagan Team"..headed by William Casey, resorted to criminal acts to ensure that

A) The Iranian hostages were not released until after Reagan was elected
(Google "October Surprise&quot

B) White House CIA officer Donald Gregg stole President Carter's briefing papers for the
second presidential debate, (while Carter was out of town) made copies of them, then turned them over to George Will, who then "coached" Reagan before the second debate, so that Reagan knew ahead of time what President Carter was going to say during that 2nd debate, and thus, Reagan "won" that debate ("Well, there you go again&quot
(Google: "Debategate&quot

(I apologize for not providing links, but in this case, 2 Google searches will have to suffice)

In summary, Ronald Reagan STOLE the 1980 presidential election!

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Jimmy Carter calls for return to publicly financed elections [View all] w4rma Jun 2016 OP

Well, we'd better throw him under the bus quick! bonemachine Jun 2016 #1

Damn straight Jimmy! Thank you for calling for an end to Oligarchy n/t 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #2

Absolutely. AND we need to cap the cost Hortensis Jun 2016 #64

Bwas Bernie Sanders going to take public funding for his General Election campaign? brooklynite Jun 2016 #3

No. Though Bernie Sanders raised his funds from small donors, he raised too much money to qualify. w4rma Jun 2016 #4

+1 k & r ancianita Jun 2016 #11

Thanks for that info red dog 1 Jun 2016 #52

K$R tecelote Jun 2016 #5

Which candidates? robbob Jun 2016 #31

uh, The People! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #36

I meant if we want government funded elections robbob Jun 2016 #38

Each candidate, no matter the party should be funded equally. No private money in elections, none! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #39

Sorry, when you wrote "the people" robbob Jun 2016 #40

In addition, there should be accurate exit polling done for all major elections... Raster Jun 2016 #6

+ 1 red dog 1 Jun 2016 #56

K&R. Duval Jun 2016 #7

Yeah, just get the yo yo's to vote for that sailfla Jun 2016 #8

He's right, of course, but this nation is too far down the rabbit hole to recover tabasco Jun 2016 #9

Yay! No more ... frazzled Jun 2016 #10

"Publicly subsidized" elections would be a more accurate term. Those fund raising drives w4rma Jun 2016 #12

Let's just return to Jimmy Carter. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2016 #13

Good idea Craig234 Jun 2016 #47

The spending caps are too low bluestateguy Jun 2016 #14

He's right, although the presidential election is not the real problem skepticscott Jun 2016 #15

excellent dreamnightwind Jun 2016 #21

Congressional corruption Craig234 Jun 2016 #46

I think Obama shut the door on that one pretty tight NobodyHere Jun 2016 #16

The public is ALREADY PAYING for elections THROUGH THE HIGH COSTS OF insurance, education, prisons.. vkkv Jun 2016 #17

+1000 KPN Jun 2016 #24

We've become a Banana Republic ruled ErikJ Jun 2016 #33

Thank You Sir, can we have another? Phlem Jun 2016 #18

Publicly funded elections would make politicians less corrupt - but that's not what politicians Little Tich Jun 2016 #19

Actually I think a lot of politicians would like to see it Craig234 Jun 2016 #48

K&R Yes to publicly financed elections felix_numinous Jun 2016 #20

Jimmy was a good President who got unfairly swamped by the times. But he's been a great former ... marble falls Jun 2016 #22

About your sig Craig234 Jun 2016 #45

I think we can pare it down even tighter. The policies that "help" the 1% won't keep a total .... marble falls Jun 2016 #50

President Carter probably would have won reelection in 1980 red dog 1 Jun 2016 #57

Whether Reagan stole it or not, the poblic got robbed. marble falls Jun 2016 #59

"The public got robbed" BECAUSE Reagan stole the 1980 election red dog 1 Jun 2016 #61

I agree- Citizen's United was a stupid decision�. midnight Jun 2016 #23

This is my absolute, number one issue! MoonchildCA Jun 2016 #25

But what is left out of the story is that to get anything moving it will take lots of money now tonyt53 Jun 2016 #26

Campaigns should be structured, like a good hiring process. Thorough, as fair as possible, etc. TryLogic Jun 2016 #27

Hillary Clinton should prioritize this. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #28

The other major problem is America's ongoing Election Fraud... TheProgressive Jun 2016 #29

+ 1 red dog 1 Jun 2016 #54

A K-State math prof's analysis says Kansas almost certainly did not reelect Brownback. Of course tblue37 Jun 2016 #62

Sorry my bad , kacekwl Jun 2016 #30

Now if we could just get the Dems to agree. nt phazed0 Jun 2016 #32

You mean Dems other than yourself right since you are already a Democrat? cstanleytech Jun 2016 #34

I don't matter but for a vote... phazed0 Jun 2016 #35

The airwaves are public, tv, radio and internet should be forced to provide an equal amount of Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #37

Hear hear! robbob Jun 2016 #41

+ 1 red dog 1 Jun 2016 #53

Do you think the SmittynMo Jun 2016 #42

Perhaps a better question might be red dog 1 Jun 2016 #55

Fucking Amen! Phlem Jun 2016 #43

Why haven't I heard a word attacking Republins on this in Democratic campaigns? Craig234 Jun 2016 #44

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #49

This thread has been one of the most constructive ladjf Jun 2016 #51

K&R! red dog 1 Jun 2016 #58

"Publicly financed elections" == public money *added* to the corporate schmiergeld. n/t Old Union Guy Jun 2016 #60

Thanks Jimmy. Paper ballots too please. peace13 Jun 2016 #63

K&R. Yes please! Overseas Jun 2016 #65

K & R. Excellent plan President Carter. Many thanks, all the best and be well. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #66

Agree; and been saying it since the Republican scandal over Part D in Medicare Grins Jun 2016 #67

Former President Carter saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #68

Yes and please. PoliticalMalcontent Jun 2016 #69