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4. It appears to be turning out that way.

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Investigators Say Orlando Shooter Showed Few Warning Signs Of Radicalization [View all] pnwmom Jun 2016 OP

Bit sill gun dealer decided to sell to him. scscholar Jun 2016 #1

The murderer is at fault. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #2

Someone in the ATF decided he was worthy of a firearms licence. christx30 Jun 2016 #5

Maybe because he wasn't a Muslim radical but instead a hate filled homophobic? Hate crime, terrorism uppityperson Jun 2016 #3

It appears to be turning out that way. pnwmom Jun 2016 #4

How did he become homophobic? oberliner Jun 2016 #6

How does anyone become hateful since they aren't born hating? uppityperson Jun 2016 #7

Often they are influenced by important figures in their life oberliner Jun 2016 #12

He was living in a homophobic family in a larger homophobic culture. nt pnwmom Jun 2016 #9

He was living in a homophobic family? oberliner Jun 2016 #13

The descriptions by his ex-wife. nt pnwmom Jun 2016 #16

Also things his father said about himself. uppityperson Jun 2016 #18

Exactly. No evidence of being radicalized because he wasn't. AllyCat Jun 2016 #10

He was a mentally ill man afraid of himself? oberliner Jun 2016 #14

Shooting a hundred people is the act of a mentally ill person AllyCat Jun 2016 #19

So why do people go to jail for murder? oberliner Jun 2016 #25

A PICTURE IS EMERGING FROM PEOPLE IN HIS LIFE....MATEEN WAS DISPLAYING PROBLEMS EARLY IN LIFE. cynzke Jun 2016 #39

Holy wall o' text! brett_jv Jun 2016 #43

Horseshit. They're TRYING every way possible to dismiss it. 7962 Jun 2016 #8

Because some Islamic countries will imprison you or kill you for being gay does not mean every uppityperson Jun 2016 #11

Muslims overwhelmingly say that homosexual behavior is morally wrong oberliner Jun 2016 #15

And so do most of the fundamentalist Christians in Florida. So do fundamentalists pnwmom Jun 2016 #17

Yes, if a person said they killed gays in the name of fundamental Christianity I would believe them oberliner Jun 2016 #21

Did you read the OP? It answers some of your questions. uppityperson Jun 2016 #22

Have you read any other news items on this subject? oberliner Jun 2016 #26

Yes, I have. The FBI investigated him after he claimed he knew the Boston bombing brothers, and uppityperson Jun 2016 #29

Maybe it's worth doing more than a quick search? oberliner Jun 2016 #31

Here's the point ... if he was NOT IN CONTACT with anyone from these groups ... brett_jv Jun 2016 #45

It seems to be clear that he was not coordinating with any international terrorist organizations oberliner Jun 2016 #47

"Most Muslims surveyed say that drinking alcohol is morally wrong." Yet the shooter drank to excess uppityperson Jun 2016 #20

What is your evidence for your assertion that the shooter drank to excess? oberliner Jun 2016 #23

There are many stories of him being drunk in the Pulse when he visited there prior to the shooting uppityperson Jun 2016 #24

Can you provide a link to one? oberliner Jun 2016 #27

Less than 5 seconds to write pulse shooting drunk and this pops up top uppityperson Jun 2016 #28

Interesting oberliner Jun 2016 #30

So did the 9/11 Highjackers forthemiddle Jun 2016 #42

I think you have to twist yourself into knots at this point to prove this attack had anything to do brett_jv Jun 2016 #46

Thank you for putting it so well. uppityperson Jun 2016 #48

Rubbish King_David Jun 2016 #54

He claimed it was for, or he was a member of ISIS, al-Qaeda and Hezbollah which is very off uppityperson Jun 2016 #55

So whatever, they all radical Islamic terrorist groups King_David Jun 2016 #56

Morally wrong except when it's "bacha bazi" ("boy play") which, though illegal, is . . . Petrushka Jun 2016 #36

All points lead to him being emotionally unstable from an early age, unfortunately he never received slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #32

There are millions of emotionally unstable people in this country oberliner Jun 2016 #33

Sadly there are too many reasons to hate and many crimes have a combination of reasons ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #37

Agreed oberliner Jun 2016 #41

And 99.9% of Muslims don't either. Thanks to the lax regulation of assault-type weapons, pnwmom Jun 2016 #40

Exactly oberliner Jun 2016 #44

I just want gun control. rusty quoin Jun 2016 #34

This is not about Islam mwrguy Jun 2016 #35

Thank you, do the people who blame Islam not listen to the Christian people ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #38

Investigators, whose job it is to locate violent radicals, tabasco Jun 2016 #49

That's it right there. Throd Jun 2016 #50

Yeah, there is conflict of interest in the investigation. goldent Jun 2016 #57

Can it be both terror and hate, as the President said? BlackLivesMatter Jun 2016 #51

Yes, it was both -- as Hillary said in her speech. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #52

Bullshit King_David Jun 2016 #53

Just your average, every day mass killer, well armed and with a grievance. Darb Jun 2016 #58