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67. The call for eliminating automatic delegates is fine.

Mon Jun 20, 2016, 08:37 AM

Jun 2016

But really, asking the national party to eliminate caucuses?

Not California's call, telling the party to dispose of what party members in other states can or cannot do. Doesn't sound very democratic, that.

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California Democrats call for elimination of caucuses, most super-delegates [View all] w4rma Jun 2016 OP

I'm a CA voter and I don't support this. underthematrix Jun 2016 #1

I support democracy. I don't support corporate lobbyists being able to overrule voters. w4rma Jun 2016 #2

The super delegates never have, and likely never will. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #3

Un-Democratic Party: DNC chair says superdelegates ensure elites don�t have to run �against grassroo w4rma Jun 2016 #4

No, they are voting against your choice, which is not the same thing. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #25

They might still vote for my choice, depending on the FBI. w4rma Jun 2016 #27

Yup, keep praying for that deus ex machina... Thor_MN Jun 2016 #28

Among general election voters, I am in the majority. I support the most popular candidate. w4rma Jun 2016 #34

No, you have the delusion that you are in some sort of majority. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #36

Hillary is still the most unpopular frontrunner in the history of the Democratic Party. w4rma Jun 2016 #37

Which has nothing to do with the fact that your choice finished second. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #38

As I said before. My choice would win the general election in a landslide. w4rma Jun 2016 #39

Which is nothing more than your opinion. It's unprovable. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #40

Don't Engage The Disruptive, Anal Types billhicks76 Jun 2016 #53

All three Sanders-endorsed Democratic primary challengers in Nevada lost on June 14. lapucelle Jun 2016 #102

I Don't Care What Happened In Nevada Then billhicks76 Jun 2016 #107

Don't you understand their math? elljay Jun 2016 #41

Hillary Clinton's net-unfavorables vs. Bernie Sanders's net-favorables. w4rma Jun 2016 #43

Myopia billhicks76 Jun 2016 #54

I've said for a year that I can't tell the difference between a Republican and a Clintonite. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #56

I agree, there are a lot of similarly binary thinkers. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #72

Lol...No Bernie Supporters Aren't Conservative. billhicks76 Jun 2016 #74

Didn't really say that, did I? Thor_MN Jun 2016 #77

I Get It But I Suggesting You Were Doing The Same Thing billhicks76 Jun 2016 #81

What, saying the progressive fringe is the same as the consrvative fringe? Thor_MN Jun 2016 #83

Wow billhicks76 Jun 2016 #90

I know, right? Thor_MN Jun 2016 #94

Keep Trying billhicks76 Jun 2016 #97

Trying what? Thor_MN Jun 2016 #100

Dont the new rules say something about accusations like this? I believe they do. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #98

Yes, they do. Some here want to keep thrashing the primary. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #101

You're The One Doing That billhicks76 Jun 2016 #103

No. I posted a fact. You took issue with that fact. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #104

I Never Disagreed With That billhicks76 Jun 2016 #105

Stupid Argument billhicks76 Jun 2016 #49

Delusional response. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #71

Really? That Makes No Sense...Again billhicks76 Jun 2016 #73

I pointed out facts. Which you have decided is somehow an an attack. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #76

Thats Irrelevant billhicks76 Jun 2016 #80

Projection seems to be your strong suit. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #82

Ok. Whatever You Say. Good Luck billhicks76 Jun 2016 #89

No they don't. SD ALWAYS go with whoever wins the most pledged delegates. That is what happen with still_one Jun 2016 #42

The harm they cause is at the beginning of the Primary's, not the end. harun Jun 2016 #68

Jeeze... ReRe Jun 2016 #65

It isn't so much that rpannier Jun 2016 #62

I wonder how long you're been voting and if you even knew we had superdelegates underthematrix Jun 2016 #5

You could keep from putting your foot in your mouth if you had just checked my DU membership. w4rma Jun 2016 #6

Actually, that would tell one nothing of the sort. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #15

Whatever. I am a U.S. voter who has been voting since, at least, 2001. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #17

Okay. I understand. underthematrix Jun 2016 #60

Well I raise this question to you because I didn't see this sort of ire in 1992 underthematrix Jun 2016 #44

2008: Neck and Neck, Democrats Woo Superdelegates w4rma Jun 2016 #47

1992: Superdelegates have doubts about Clinton w4rma Jun 2016 #48

"We need the superdelegates to protect us from crazies, from ragers and from stupid" Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #9

The pro-superdelegate argument sounds like every argument against democracy that I've ever seen.(nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #12

A party organization . .. reACTIONary Jun 2016 #29

I reject your argument that primaries should be undemocratic, authoritarian, coronations. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #31

That's your right, bu .... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #85

Dumb Argument billhicks76 Jun 2016 #55

I'm not sure i understand your objection... reACTIONary Jun 2016 #84

Yeah, this argument leads nowhere, doesn't it? randome Jun 2016 #86

Close The Primaries. Get Rid Of Super Delegates billhicks76 Jun 2016 #91

Not a problem here. It seems to be a problem with the Black Caucus and others, though. randome Jun 2016 #93

Sen Clyburn? billhicks76 Jun 2016 #96

Perhaps we should only let the superdelegates vote, John Poet Jun 2016 #108

Wow just wow... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #13

"crazies, from ragers and from stupid" <<< not much faith in the Democratic Party's voters eh? AntiBank Jun 2016 #14

+1,000,000 jhart3333 Jun 2016 #26

+10! reACTIONary Jun 2016 #24

Actually, we need ourselves to protect us from the crazy people... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #30

Let Them Eat Cake Huh? billhicks76 Jun 2016 #50

Right... ReRe Jun 2016 #66

watching many on here support such an elitist, undemocratic institution as super delegates AntiBank Jun 2016 #7

Yup. Luckily, the vast majority of Americans can't stand the Superdelegate system. w4rma Jun 2016 #8

Couldn't stand it since at least 2016 WhiteTara Jun 2016 #22

I am a CA voter, Democrat and I SUPPORT this!!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #11

This. What right does CA have to tell us... scscholar Jun 2016 #45

I've opposed them since the beginning and haven't changed rpannier Jun 2016 #61

Well I'm a California voter and I do! OnionPatch Jun 2016 #69

Finally some good news!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #10

Sure, get rid of SDs. It's worked out so well for the GOP. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #16

Trump won by too much for their "unbound" delegates to overrule their voters. w4rma Jun 2016 #18

great let's not do democratic things based off the fucking Rethugs sorry choices!!! AntiBank Jun 2016 #20

The lack of SD's are supposed to have caused Drumpf? MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #32

Trump won because plurality of Republican voters Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #35

The majority of Republicans voted for Trump elljay Jun 2016 #46

Clinton backers also endorsed the effort, resulting in the resolution being unanimously approved AntiBank Jun 2016 #19

Thank goodness. Getting rid of the superdelegate system is very popular and strongly supported. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #21

just not on this board, unfortunately AntiBank Jun 2016 #23

Amen. ~ America's last King, George III. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #51

Right ON, Anti... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #33

Frantz Nailed It billhicks76 Jun 2016 #58

ALL not some of the super delegates have got to go. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #52

We got a similar resolution passed WolverineDG Jun 2016 #57

why do so many have to be such nasty people? it makes no sense AntiBank Jun 2016 #59

With Hillary at the top of the ticket? WolverineDG Jun 2016 #87

It IS meaningless and worthless if the 'revolution' was for income equality, climate change, etc. randome Jun 2016 #79

So we should never, ever do anything to change WolverineDG Jun 2016 #88

How do you draw a line from superdelegates to economic justice? randome Jun 2016 #92

Meh. Eliminate parties, institute instant runoff voting. Festivito Jun 2016 #63

Does anyone in California even know if their vote is counted? Major Hogwash Jun 2016 #64

The call for eliminating automatic delegates is fine. Igel Jun 2016 #67

As the conversation rarely comes up outside of primary season LanternWaste Jun 2016 #70

One of the all too few sane states in the country. n/t Triana Jun 2016 #75

Of all the things needing attention, THIS is where some draw the line? randome Jun 2016 #78

Democrats in the largest state in the Union seem to disagree with you. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #99

"Most superdelegates" TheFarseer Jun 2016 #95

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #106