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Drunken Irishman

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47. No need for complacency but a general is vastly different than a primary.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:53 AM
Jun 2016

In a primary, you're not running a 50 state campaign - or even a 20 state campaign. You're essentially focused on a collection of states to build momentum and then you use that momentum to win in other states. Trump didn't need to spend gobs of cash because his focus all along was those early primary states.

But with him at the top of the ticket, he's going to be forced to defend way more states than a typical Republican. Take Utah for example. That's like a Democrat defending Vermont, campaigning in Vermont, and yet that's what's happening to Trump. So, not only does he have to focus on states like Ohio, Virginia, Florida and maybe even North Carolina, he's also going to have to campaign in Arizona and Utah and potentially Georgia - states most Republican nominees have locked down by August so they can focus on the swing states.

That's where money becomes an issue. You've gotta build a ground game, a structure of getting out voters, especially apathetic swing voters in swing districts and you've got to smartly play to the states you can win. One of the biggest criticisms of Romney's campaign in 2012 was faulty data. They relied on voter models that projected him winning comfortably, so, they got cocky and invested in states like Pennsylvania and Minnesota despite the fact Obama was well ahead in both those states. That distracted them from Ohio and Florida and Virginia, three states Obama narrowly won that year.

Trump already believes he can compete in California and Connecticut, so, I expect to see him putting up an effort there because his campaign is so loosely run, and there just isn't the $$$ there to fund a well established campaign staff, that he, too, will be duped by the fools gold and spend less time in states HE MUST WIN.

It's very important to have money to invest in ads and staff that know how to win elections. Winning a primary is the easy part, frankly, because the way primaries are set up is that it's entirely based around momentum, which doesn't necessarily exist in a general election because every state votes at the same time.

Had there been a fifty state vote on, say, Feb 2nd, 2016, it's very likely Trump isn't the nominee right now because of that very reason.

But I agree. We can't get complacent. The country is still too divided for this election to be a slam dunk. Hell, for most of 2008, despite the GOP in disarray and McCain being a complete fucking amateur candidate, who selected a bag of potatoes as a running-mate, the election was scarily close. Even then, Obama didn't win by a huge landslide, either.

With that said, Trump is in trouble. There are a lot, A LOT of red flags here and the fact is, we're hitting the point where the candidates are going to start being defined by those red flags. What killed Romney, really, was the summer of 2012. He was hit HARD by Obama on Bain and what not and he could never fully recover.

These are defining months for Trump. But to be sure - his campaign has been ineptly run since he wrapped up the nomination. This ain't the primaries anymore. A majority of America so far ain't buying what he's selling.

Hope it continues.

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I knew it was bad. herding cats Jun 2016 #1
Every dollar they burn on him is a dollar lost to Congressional campaigns. onehandle Jun 2016 #2
I'm loving watching this evolve. herding cats Jun 2016 #4
Why donate- he's repeatedly bragged he doesn't need it... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #3
Which big money donors have mentioned to the RNC. herding cats Jun 2016 #5
... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #7
Exactly! herding cats Jun 2016 #8
Does he really need it? Astraea Jun 2016 #6
When all the free stuff is negative... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #10
Yes. Drunken Irishman Jun 2016 #46
And I LOVE that! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #59
That's enough to pay the rent at Trump Tower for maybe 2 months bluestateguy Jun 2016 #9
I doubt it, I'll bet everything he owns is mortgaged to the hilt. olddad56 Jun 2016 #51
There's a Mega Millions Jackpot tomorrow! Joe Bacon Jun 2016 #11
Trump doesn't think he needs all that cash. During the primaries Jeb Bush outspent him totodeinhere Jun 2016 #12
Agreed about complacency, but his earned media strategy works against him in the General Recursion Jun 2016 #34
Yes no need for D complacency. Must win State Legislatures to kill gerrymander & Senate for SCOTUS.n Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #44
No need for complacency but a general is vastly different than a primary. Drunken Irishman Jun 2016 #47
$1.3M on hand? Time to file bankruptcy! nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13
Your post made me wonder if he has gone back to stiffing his vendors RogueTrooper Jun 2016 #58
wonder what kind of ground game he'll have 6chars Jun 2016 #14
30 people for the entire country. No ground game at all. alfredo Jun 2016 #17
And there you have it bluestateguy Jun 2016 #15
Funny and actually dead on! nt 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #16
Everyone knows he's a complete farce... Hulk Jun 2016 #18
I've suspected this all along--Trump is actually broke... First Speaker Jun 2016 #19
USA Today - Pro-Trump super PAC uses Orlando attack in new ad TomCADem Jun 2016 #20
I'm looking foreword to the first debate Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #21
Why? Trump will not answer a single question... Moostache Jun 2016 #22
I can't decide if... Beartracks Jun 2016 #23
Do you foresee... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #24
Of course not! Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #25
His base firmly believes he will destroy Hillary... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #26
right, and I was remembering how aweful the repubs. debates were Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #27
He will show his ass trying... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #28
Hell, he spends 1.3M a month just in hair spray nt postatomic Jun 2016 #29
WTF? That would be low for a House race Recursion Jun 2016 #30
Holy fuck Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #31
You forgot "victims"... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #37
Suckers, you mean. Ask them "When" was America great (to be made as great again) & they sputter. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #43
Can't the billionaire class turn this around in a day? rusty quoin Jun 2016 #32
Money is the least of their worries. This is just propaganda from WP. harun Jun 2016 #65
At this rate it would take trump 1000 months to raise the amounts his campaign projected Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #33
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #35
Another lost soul you are. nt 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #40
Only "less" ? I'm not sure how to read your post. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #41
What is wrong with all of you ?? jknudsen Jun 2016 #36
Are you lost? 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #38
"you all" ? Are you excluding yourself? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #42
What is wrong with all of you ? jknudsen Jun 2016 #67
Life sucks, Trumpster. Maybe you need to sink all your "billions" into your campaign Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #39
Hillary is going to stomp his a$$ mwrguy Jun 2016 #45
As Nelson would utter, "Ha ha" ............NT vkkv Jun 2016 #48
that 1.3m probably exceeds his personal wealth. olddad56 Jun 2016 #49
put a fork in the Donald olddad56 Jun 2016 #50
As has already been pointed out, SheilaT Jun 2016 #52
That's not enough. I better donate more to HRC. ffr Jun 2016 #53
trump's situation is so totally dire. The gop has got to be freaked to the max. truthisfreedom Jun 2016 #54
Drumpt is finding out you can't pay for an election with donated kairos12 Jun 2016 #55
So NICE of WaPo to represent Drumpf as some sort of 'Poor Underdog' ... whilst Hillary ... brett_jv Jun 2016 #56
Good lord Egnever Jun 2016 #57
the bulk of trump supporters have no money after they buy beer and ammo beachbum bob Jun 2016 #60
Trump was never serious about winning FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #61
This means nothing--it could even be a negative factor randr Jun 2016 #62
Only in primaries. The GE is a difference animal. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #63
We are about to find out how disgusted the people are with the system as we know it randr Jun 2016 #64
I better contribute to Trump's campaign. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #66
Kick sarcasmo Jun 2016 #68
few people want to waste money on a loon 300gools Jun 2016 #69
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