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111. I get your anger about this, however,

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:10 AM

Jun 2012

you seem to be attacking people who agree with you, here. I don't want to eat it either. I don't want it in the food chain either.

I just want to know how to grocery shop for my family, now. I am looking for ways to know what I'm buying, because, "I'm not buying it" seems to be the only thing that gets through to corporations. That is why I think labeling is important. My preference is that it not be used at all.

I said "for those of you who ARE interested", because some people in this thread weren't interested, so I wasn't talking to them. I realize looking at the PLU # is a very small thing, and the stuff is pervasive. I had a little piece of information that I found helpful, and thought others might as well. So I wanted to share it.

Peace.

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GMO foods don't need special label, American Medical Assn. says [View all] ag_dude Jun 2012 OP

this is absurd, there's no good reason not to label the gmo foods Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #1

What's your "scientific justification for special labeling"? ag_dude Jun 2012 #2

What's your "scientific justification for freedom"? harun Jun 2012 #4

Your question doesn't make any sense. ag_dude Jun 2012 #8

Neither does yours. harun Jun 2012 #12

If big ag is so proud of their GMO creations why don't they label them as such and market them? ag_dude Jun 2012 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author roody Jun 2012 #61

You mention freedom, but do you have a sound concept of it? what_is_freedom Jun 2012 #144

It seems that non-GMO producers have a waiting market Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #152

as many countries have. A chance in hell we can ban it here in US? Labeling is a compromise Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #169

Labeling is not a compromise. HuckleB Jul 2014 #175

thanks for this post. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #170

Yet again - What's your "scientific justification for special labeling"? ag_dude Jun 2012 #15

Public Health harun Jun 2012 #25

Which of those studies do you think applies directly to public health? ag_dude Jun 2012 #30

The Indiana State Medical Association and the Illinois State Medical Society urge labeling (2012). proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #47

I think that is an interesting argument. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #142

See genetically engineered bovine growth hormone fiasco, rBGH (breast/prostate cancer rates go up). proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #51

More context. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #53

The American Academy Of Environmental Medicine Calls For Moratorium On GM Foods (2009). proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #54

Who cares? arikara Jun 2012 #80

I don't know what his justification is. FlaGranny Jun 2012 #141

Crock and a lot of it. LaurenG Jun 2012 #23

Oh, the Monsanto boogey man too. ag_dude Jun 2012 #27

One of Upton Sinclair's antagonists in The Jungle argued that very thing... LanternWaste Jun 2012 #37

Yeah so they should just label it. LaurenG Jun 2012 #44

Yes, you sound like the right wing machine that you probably represent BanzaiBonnie Jun 2012 #56

It IS illegal to label food as not containing GMO, you really dont know what you are talking about stockholmer Jun 2012 #82

see my posts in this thread, you are dead wrong on all accounts so far stockholmer Jun 2012 #83

And they chose NOT to xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #154

Exactly. HuckleB Jul 2014 #195

"Who said you should be required to buy food that you don't want to buy?" A Simple Game Jun 2012 #68

"scientific justification for special labeling"? A Simple Game Jun 2012 #66

Start here: DeSwiss Jun 2012 #71

A Comparison of the Effects of Three GM Corn Varieties on Mammalian Health PostCapitalist Jun 2012 #74

If I don't want to buy GMO foods, I should have the choice Scootaloo Jun 2012 #77

Monsanto GMO's linked to organ failure + GMO causes sterility in lab animals in 3 generations + more stockholmer Jun 2012 #81

Why? Eljo_Don Jun 2012 #93

I don't think that consumer choice requires a scientific justification... LanternWaste Aug 2012 #153

Surely this isn't a serious question. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #167

Actually there is a good reason not to label because nearly all processed foods do contain GMO yellowcanine Jun 2012 #125

Yeah, everybody's so healthy that we should just accept the status quo. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #127

Please don't make assumptions about what I think or don't think. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #130

even that might be helpful for many people Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #128

Few people pay much attention to food labels so I don't think so. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #131

ok, well that is a fair response. It would eat into their profits. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #168

is this the food genetically modified with toxins? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #151

that's the one Voice for Peace Aug 2012 #156

lol on too pooped to scoop 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #157

seriously rat poison (you probably know already, it made the rats very sick.) Voice for Peace Aug 2012 #158

actually, no I didn't know about the rats 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #159

Do you still believe in all those fantasies? HuckleB Jul 2014 #164

no trust for Monsanto 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #171

Monsanto? HuckleB Jul 2014 #173

I must be missing your point. 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #183

Wow! You just posted several of the usual anti-GMO lies. HuckleB Jul 2014 #186

u work for monsanto? 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #187

And now the shill gambit. HuckleB Jul 2014 #188

well, I'm not really pushing anything 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #189

Well, it's interesting that you will repeat dishonest propaganda, but... HuckleB Jul 2014 #190

whatever 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #191

You keep responding, but you have no way to support your stance. HuckleB Jul 2014 #194

not going to prove anything to you 2pooped2pop Aug 2014 #196

exactly the stuff, lol. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #166

There is no good reason to label GMOs. HuckleB Jul 2014 #163

yes I do. People have a right to know what they are buying! Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #165

Knowing the technology used to develop gives you no actual information. HuckleB Jul 2014 #172

I don't get your question, & believe you may be trying to bait me so I'll decline to engage, thanks. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #184

Bait you? HuckleB Jul 2014 #185

odd that that poster dug up this two year old post to 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #192

I didn't even notice how old the post was. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #193

Who elected these assholes? Oh yah, NOBODY. harun Jun 2012 #3

That's because they're the scientists. ag_dude Jun 2012 #5

the ama are doctors and quacks, not scientist! part man all 86 Jun 2012 #10

Oh, okay, sorry about that. ag_dude Jun 2012 #11

ama is polictical. part man all 86 Jun 2012 #19

Okay then, so be it. ag_dude Jun 2012 #24

Transparency LaurenG Jun 2012 #48

instead of defending the non-labeling position of Monsanto & the AMA Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #52

Politics mixing with medicine! tavalon Jun 2012 #36

That the AMA is even making a statement on this should be a tipoff Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #46

23 years as a Registered Nurse tavalon Jun 2012 #49

lol Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #58

Nurses know about feces. : ) n/t Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #87

I would rather have physicians making recommendations about food safety than politicians. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #126

Okay Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #6

Right. Because Tomatoes frequently mate with fish. GOTV Jun 2012 #22

No, not just. tavalon Jun 2012 #31

No what they are saying is that the GM process does not inherently make food less safe. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #129

I understand that Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #132

Almost all processed foods contain GMO. So labeling is pretty much useless. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #133

Labeling is done in at least 49 countries worldwide and alternatives to GMOsourced food exist there. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #134

"Labeling is done in 49 countries" is not a valid argument. Look up "is/ought fallacy" yellowcanine Jun 2012 #145

Regardless, I would still like to know if the food I'm eating has been genetically altered. Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #7

You have that choice. ag_dude Jun 2012 #9

What's wrong with just being able to glance at any food package and tell if it has GMO ingredients? Fumesucker Jun 2012 #13

Nope, that's why you can already do it. ag_dude Jun 2012 #17

What is so scary about labeling, Mr. Monsanto? eom roody Jun 2012 #63

What do people have to hide? Fumesucker Jun 2012 #96

If the GMO foods are not labeled as such, what choice do I have? Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #16

You do have choices. ag_dude Jun 2012 #20

NO you can't classykaren Jun 2012 #41

Freedom of choice denvine Jun 2012 #18

We HAVE freedom of choice ag_dude Jun 2012 #21

The issue is that the consumer has a right to know what they are purchasing. Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #26

Then choose to go with food that is labeled. ag_dude Jun 2012 #32

I don't recall that I have ever seen a label that says a food is NOT GMO. Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #43

Yes I have. On some food items we are starting to see "No GMO's" "No BGH".. PostCapitalist Jun 2012 #75

Do you get paid by the post or by the hour? FiveGoodMen Jun 2012 #72

Exactly. DeSwiss Jun 2012 #73

I think it is by the post siligut Jun 2012 #85

Yep. Too bad the air quality of DU goes down with every outburst of trollish flatulence. freshwest Jun 2012 #88

LOL, I thought I smelled something siligut Jun 2012 #91

The repetition is a dead give away, and the smell. You just can't escape... Le Sigh... freshwest Jun 2012 #92

Only labeling will give the consumer choice harun Jun 2012 #29

Then tell them. ag_dude Jun 2012 #33

Why is the industry resistant to the labeling? Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #50

because the invisible hand of the market will slap them in the face... n/t nebenaube Jun 2012 #108

Fuck you, American Medical Association for fucking me tavalon Jun 2012 #28

Excuse me? cbrer Jun 2012 #34

That's called middle management/lawyerly speak tavalon Jun 2012 #40

For those I was having conversations with. ag_dude Jun 2012 #35

Actually, that's really polite tavalon Jun 2012 #42

sounds like you were already at work Viva_La_Revolution Jun 2012 #45

So, if... cyberswede Jun 2012 #38

Thank Bill clinton classykaren Jun 2012 #39

I wonder how much the AMA got paid, and how? hunter Jun 2012 #55

G20 Leaders Declaration? Trillo Jun 2012 #60

Reducing the diversity of food crops kills more people than it saves. hunter Jun 2012 #69

I trust doctors more than random technophobes on the internet Odin2005 Jun 2012 #57

Sorry, see posts #47, 51, 53, 54 - it's doctors vs doctors. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #62

7/6/12 NEWS - The 'Monsanto Rider': Are Biotech Companies About to Gain Immunity from Federal Law? proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #147

I will be voting to label GMOs in November. roody Jun 2012 #59

How many courses in nutrition does roody Jun 2012 #64

Zero. roody Jul 2014 #180

I don't see any health reason but . . . 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #65

More from the OP link. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #67

Anyone who listens to the AMA..... DeSwiss Jun 2012 #70

That's way too pessimistic. I think a huge brawl is happening within the AMA over this (post #47). proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #76

Actually considering whom we're talking about and..... DeSwiss Jun 2012 #78

Do you know how your Senator voted on the Sanders-Boxer amendment to permit states to require labels proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #86

Unfortunately I do know...... DeSwiss Jun 2012 #89

A clue is in the sticker: RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #79

Thanks for the info. Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #84

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! DeSwiss Jun 2012 #90

This is what I was looking for. Mz Pip Jun 2012 #95

Processed food additives from soy, corn, canola, sugar beets, cottonseed are GMO unless organic. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #97

+1 Thanks! :) n/t RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #113

I've been wondering about this TuxedoKat Jun 2012 #118

Thanks! BlueIris Jun 2012 #99

This isn't reliable at all harun Jun 2012 #100

Why isn't it reliable "at all"? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #101

Because people think you can use this to see if it is GMO harun Jun 2012 #102

Food Rules by Michael Pollan provides a simple guide without mentioning the term GMO. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #103

Muchos Gracias, very good info. harun Jun 2012 #104

Thank you for all the links and info. RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #109

Choosing organic where feasible eliminates GMOs. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #112

Fair point, and thanks, but that poster was talking about produce, saying sticker provides a clue DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #106

"For those of you who ARE interested in avoiding GMOs" harun Jun 2012 #107

I simultaneously feel that we're both on the same side, and that you just want to be confrontational DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #110

I get your anger about this, however, RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #111

Understood harun Jun 2012 #114

I see what your saying. RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #115

Defeatist malarky or, rather, wishful thinking by fake food biz considering abysmal health outcomes. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #116

I'm very disappointed to see the number of Democrats voting nay with the Republican on this. RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #122

About all any of us can do Mz Pip Jun 2012 #117

I would just like to know Mz Pip Jun 2012 #94

It may not be a question of need in the minds of the AMA but it is a question of what the public Citizen Worker Jun 2012 #98

Jesus Loves Frankenfood warrprayer Jun 2012 #105

Deciphering supermarket code system of fruits/veggies to find out if GMO: mother earth Jun 2012 #119

Just say if the code starts with 8, then the item is GMO; if it starts with 9, it cannot be GMO. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #120

Yes, certainly simplify to whatever suits your needs, but there is much confusion in "organic" & the mother earth Jun 2012 #121

What are you talking about? "GMO organics" do not exist, nor should they, despite what GMO co. want. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #123

Marketing/labeling organics when they aren't...that's what I mean, hence the confusion for the mother earth Jun 2012 #140

17 June 2012, EarthOpenSource Report: "GMO Myths and Truths, An evidence-based examination..." proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #124

Old MacDonald had a Farm, E-I-E-I-O. With a gmo here and a gmo there... proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #135

Friends of the Earth News Release: Going GM-Free in Europe but not USA. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #136

Yup, I read all the comments. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #137

They might want to reconsider after reading this article posted in another thread: RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #138

I read that this morning. crim son Jun 2012 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author cstanleytech Jul 2014 #178

WATCH! proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #139

Your username might more appropriatley be.... Vanje Jun 2012 #146

I always go to the AMA for my nutritional advice. roody Jul 2012 #148

Mother Jones:"Food Industry Ditches Trans Fats, Kids' Cholesterol Levels Drop" proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #149

CHECK IT OUT - http://www.carighttoknow.org/ proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #150

Why would they think it should be labeled? Trillo Aug 2012 #155

Wouldn't GMO_Free be a better label? One_Life_To_Give Aug 2012 #160

Is my tinfoil hat on straight? Glassunion Aug 2012 #161

that's disgusting. nt LaydeeBug Aug 2012 #162

Why? HuckleB Jul 2014 #174

Have they taken a similar stance on Kosher foods? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #176

This message was self-deleted by its author cstanleytech Jul 2014 #177

The AMA says lots of things that roody Jul 2014 #179

If you want to know if it is or isn't, roody Jul 2014 #181

AMA not a scientific organization KT2000 Jul 2014 #182