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205. So, you don't believe the energy industry has conspired to cover-up

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Sun Jan 1, 2012, 05:28 PM

Jan 2012

or otherwise prevent the truth of man-made climate change from being realized?

That's beyond naïve.

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Venezuela's Chavez: did U.S. give Latin American leaders cancer? [View all] Dover Dec 2011 OP

we'll have to take good care of Evo Enrique Dec 2011 #1

The East German Secret police used to blast dissidents with x-rays... hunter Dec 2011 #2

Looks like Chavez has been blasting himself with beef and cheese rays nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #3

Cheap shot. Ken Burch Dec 2011 #37

I think Chavez or the other Latin American leaders would remember being kidnapped NickB79 Dec 2011 #64

Needn't be radiation... hunter Dec 2011 #76

He most clearly remembers being kidnapped, held outside the country on an island Judi Lynn Dec 2011 #84

Without writing another history book on Latin America... Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #156

They certainly remember the 100,000 progressive activists that were kidnapped and disappeared L. Coyote Dec 2011 #89

And all leftists... Dover Dec 2011 #4

Hmmm..I WAS wondering about that. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #6

And.... we know what happened to the Socialist contender for the presidency of France... Dover Dec 2011 #7

I think you're absolutely correct. And I've had 3 VERY liberal, socialist, vocal friends who have loudsue Dec 2011 #18

You realize you are now straying into industrial strength conspiracy theory? nt hack89 Dec 2011 #56

Can you imagine? I remember a wacky conspiracy theory among Native Americans... The Doctor. Dec 2011 #66

Comparing the transmissibility of smallpox with various forms of cancer? NickB79 Dec 2011 #70

There is no 'logical fallacy' there. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #81

You can't "catch" cancer. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #86

Which is entirely irrelevant to the point. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #110

So propose a mechanism whereby you can give someone colon cancer. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #113

HPV Demeter Dec 2011 #114

Wrong hack89 Dec 2011 #115

Give them a plutonium colonoscopy. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #121

So the CIA stuck plutonium up Hugo's ass? hack89 Dec 2011 #122

I didn't say anything of the sort. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #124

So how did the CIA give Hugo colon cancer? hack89 Dec 2011 #125

You really don't see how transparent you are. Here it is again: The Doctor. Dec 2011 #134

So Saint Hugo is talking shit? What a suprise. hack89 Dec 2011 #135

Thanks so much. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #140

So those vaunted Cuban doctors didn't notice the radiation burns? hack89 Dec 2011 #145

It's fun watching you employ your tactics. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #169

Ah - the old plutonium up the ass trick. CIA favorite I have heard. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #171

Georgi Ivanov Markov Occulus Jan 2012 #193

Killed by an easily detected ricin pellet. No cancer. hack89 Jan 2012 #199

I am sure the science has evolved hang a left Dec 2011 #90

The old Area 51 gambit hack89 Dec 2011 #120

You really don't see how transparent you are, do you? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #123

Smallpox was well understood - cancer not so well hack89 Dec 2011 #85

And you know this arikara Dec 2011 #95

Inoculation against smallpox goes back to the 1500s hack89 Dec 2011 #96

Aww, don't be such a killjoy.... PavePusher Dec 2011 #108

Again, I'll point out that your observation is totally irrelevant to the point. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #111

To bad those other posters aren't as smart as you. hack89 Dec 2011 #178

Yes, it's such a darn shame. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #179

Your logic would fit in well hack89 Dec 2011 #181

loudsue! Aren't you a sight for sore eyes! Dover Dec 2011 #126

Hi Dover! It's so nice to see you posting again! loudsue Dec 2011 #157

Which does tend to give Chavez' musings a bit more creedence. Ken Burch Dec 2011 #12

I don't think Chavez likes Creedence. And I know HE HATES THE FUCKIN' EAGLES, MAN! nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #127

He must love Mojo Nixon, then. Ken Burch Dec 2011 #129

Obviously, you're not a golfer nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #144

Did they all spend time in WTC tower 7 as well? Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #25

That makes no sense at all. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #67

he is being a jerk hang a left Dec 2011 #91

Unlocked for now. Not LBN, perhaps GD or Good Reads. Here's link to GD topic.... uppityperson Dec 2011 #5

It's speculation, but on the part of a state leader and being reported in the mainstream news. JackRiddler Dec 2011 #13

But wouldn't these leaders' closest aides also be affected? JDPriestly Dec 2011 #15

Easily. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #71

You may want to put Georgi Ivanov Markov in your ammo box against some of the fools on this thread Occulus Jan 2012 #194

And Teddy Kennedy died from it this past year. loudsue Dec 2011 #19

That's not necessarily part of a pattern though. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #75

BBC posted it at roughly the same time as the OP's Reuters source. dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #35

Nothing would shock me - look at what we tried to do to Castro: Peregrine Took Dec 2011 #8

Bush reinstituted a policy allowing the assassination of world leaders... Dover Dec 2011 #9

Really. If (some of) our leaders could find a way, they know, just know, that .... Scuba Dec 2011 #11

As if Fredge Dec 2011 #10

Well of course they can, and do. JackRiddler Dec 2011 #14

This is the type of mindless paranoia COLGATE4 Dec 2011 #17

Which leads to other forms of paranoia... zeemike Dec 2011 #20

I rest my case COLGATE4 Dec 2011 #53

You never made much of a case to begin with. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #74

wowzer. that's some twisted "logic" cali Dec 2011 #77

You would have to be able to grasp logic The Doctor. Dec 2011 #82

Logically speaking, you are dividing by zero. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #151

Oh, and you would also have to prove... Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #153

You're not reading the thread you're in. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #166

Oh, this is just wind-peeing then. Thanks for the heads up. nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #167

The only thing that is 'mindless' is dismissing possibilities with no proof The Doctor. Dec 2011 #73

The Unicorn defense? Confusious Dec 2011 #88

Wasn't Stalin's modus operandi to label dissenters as insane? nt Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #101

Nice try. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #112

Spend a lot of time there? n/t bitchkitty Dec 2011 #97

He sure likes to jerk our chain, doesn't he? nt bemildred Dec 2011 #16

Wow. Just wow. Taverner Dec 2011 #21

Read "Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man" GETPLANING Dec 2011 #22

+1000 DeSwiss Dec 2011 #23

Sadly, I have to agree. Mr_Jefferson_24 Dec 2011 #30

Funny How Most on this Thread Don't Know about This... fascisthunter Dec 2011 #102

They've been doing it for at least 50 years. Most in this thread seem to buy in to the harun Jan 2012 #204

Can't just keep giving people heart attacks. Ahem-Thurgood-ahem-Marshall. Festivito Dec 2011 #24

Thurgood Marshall died at 84 - two years after he retired from the Supreme Court. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #132

Why do you bring facts into this? nt msanthrope Dec 2011 #170

Bad habit of mine - sorry. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #172

Don't apologize!! It just adds to the general amusement of threads like these! nt msanthrope Dec 2011 #177

'The Earth revolves around the Sun'. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #197

Still sticks in my craw that something caused him to retire when he did. Festivito Dec 2011 #182

The cause was simple - he was old and sick! hack89 Dec 2011 #183

You do not address what is said, and, besides, two years is years later, specifically two. Festivito Dec 2011 #185

He had a long history of illness - his death was not sudden hack89 Dec 2011 #186

plane crashes are so yesterday certainot Dec 2011 #26

The acceptance of the "conspiracy theory" meme REQUIRES shitcanning this. saras Dec 2011 #27

It seems the phrase "conspiracy theory" Mr_Jefferson_24 Dec 2011 #31

Speculation without evidence that a court will accept: Conspiracy Theory. boppers Dec 2011 #41

Not sure where you got that... Mr_Jefferson_24 Dec 2011 #47

Using the expression "conspiracy theory" is guised censorship. Under Dog Dec 2011 #180

Needs a fitting for a sombrero del papel de aluminio, Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #28

LOL! BadtotheboneBob Dec 2011 #46

easily amused? hang a left Dec 2011 #94

Perhaps for the time being we can only wonder... Mr_Jefferson_24 Dec 2011 #29

"Covert Ops" are covert because they are illegal! L. Coyote Dec 2011 #93

Here's the definition... Mr_Jefferson_24 Dec 2011 #117

COINTELPRO unionworks Dec 2011 #32

You have a source? Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #33

Chavez muses on US Latin America cancer plot dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #34

Wow, "it's probable." "Has credence." joshcryer Dec 2011 #36

Kinda like in Honduras, right? txlibdem Dec 2011 #38

...and the MOSSAD brain rays. boppers Dec 2011 #39

I hate to sound like a repig, but do you have any dotymed Dec 2011 #58

Personal opinion, following the elections closely. joshcryer Dec 2011 #105

Chavez�s Approval Rating at 71.5% in IVAD Poll, Ultimas Says Judi Lynn Dec 2011 #106

That's the biggest outlier of them all. And IVAD didn't release the poll data. joshcryer Dec 2011 #107

Here's every poll released over the past year: joshcryer Dec 2011 #109

What would be the use in that? treestar Dec 2011 #40

Cancer *can* be induced. boppers Dec 2011 #42

Who would be subjected to daily x-rays? treestar Dec 2011 #43

X-rays are not the only delivery method txlibdem Dec 2011 #44

Do you really believe that cancer can be caused this way???? COLGATE4 Dec 2011 #54

Cancer is not a communicable disease treestar Dec 2011 #57

*With exceptions boppers Dec 2011 #118

You can't be serious. n/t Snake Alchemist Dec 2011 #59

You seriously think cancer can spread like that? NickB79 Dec 2011 #72

Researchers have induced cancer for ages AlphaCentauri Dec 2011 #61

...in very specific kinds of genetic strains. boppers Dec 2011 #119

Also Richard D Dec 2011 #62

Alexander Litvinenko? AlphaCentauri Dec 2011 #63

Notice he didn't die of any form of slow-progressing, long-term cancer like these leaders have NickB79 Dec 2011 #68

For someone who claims 'bunk', you sure don't know how radiation affects the body. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #78

"A single atom of plutonium has a 98% probability"... boppers Jan 2012 #213

A quick question... The Doctor. Jan 2012 #215

Well, chances are, you would have some decay in that case. boppers Jan 2012 #216

Which causes very specific types of cancer, such as leukemia. NickB79 Dec 2011 #65

Like boppers said it can be induced but other than that I really dont believe thats what has been cstanleytech Dec 2011 #49

But it doesn't have to be fast, just fast enough. Besides, it may serve as a warning to valerief Dec 2011 #99

Sorry but thats way to much out in Roswell area for me cstanleytech Dec 2011 #100

Of course, it's speculation. That's all we have. nt valerief Dec 2011 #104

From a technological standpoint, sounds about right. truthisfreedom Dec 2011 #45

If true, kudos to President Obama Freddie Stubbs Dec 2011 #48

Yep, dotymed Dec 2011 #52

Ah, another brainwashed minion of the M$M. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #79

TPTB in America, and the elitists everywhere would stop at dotymed Dec 2011 #50

Very unlikely IMO LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #51

Their minds are made up. Don't confuse them with facts. COLGATE4 Dec 2011 #55

Whose minds are 'made up'? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #83

Not necessarily. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #149

Oooh, we're up to a *few* atoms? boppers Jan 2012 #214

Seems like China would be a better suspect. Snake Alchemist Dec 2011 #60

This is a nutty thread jzodda Dec 2011 #69

Like what? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #80

How about the silly-assed "how do you know we DIDN'T" vibe coming from people Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #128

If you are that na�ve of the science, The Doctor. Dec 2011 #136

"Certain substances have a very high chance of causing cancer." Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #143

That is correct. Some higher than others, of course. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #162

I hope you are neither a lawyer nor a logician. nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #163

And I'll add that it is completely rational to say "I don't know either way". The Doctor. Dec 2011 #150

Conspiracy Theories depend on scientific ignorance hack89 Dec 2011 #87

In this thread it seems the scientific ignorance isn't on the side of those making speculations. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #137

When that speculation devolves into an Area 51 argument hack89 Dec 2011 #139

Which is a deliberate strawman on your part. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #146

They are claiming that a covert method of giving people different kinds of cancer exists. hack89 Dec 2011 #148

How can 'no one else know' about something I just described? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #152

So we are back to the CIA putting plutonium up Hugo's ass. OK nt hack89 Dec 2011 #154

No wonder my plutonium dildo can't seem to get patented. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #155

That is surprising to you? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #164

So we have ruled out a plutonium enema and/or dildo for Chavez. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #165

No, we have done nothing of the sort. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #174

We know his sexual habits - fucking the people of Venezuela for his own gain. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #176

Yet you cannot demonstrate this with anything but homegrown corporate propaganda. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #187

Their skyrocketing crime and inflation rates speak for themselves. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #201

And your source for this is what now? The Doctor. Jan 2012 #206

Are you serious? This is common knowledge. hack89 Jan 2012 #208

"Citations" The Doctor. Jan 2012 #210

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #211

That's a silly thing to believe. You should really make up your mind. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #161

Not flailing. Just laughing. You are sooo serious. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #173

I must have found the wacky corner of DU. nt Confusious Dec 2011 #92

I always figured the U.S. "cancered" troublemakers to the Empire. nt valerief Dec 2011 #98

Cancer is a virus and vruses are easily weaponized. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2011 #103

Cancer isn't a virus LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #131

I thought conspiracy theories were against the TOS Sanguineneck Hank Dec 2011 #116

It was a joking remark which the BBC link makes perfectly clear. dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #130

The Chavistas at DU don't appear to be joking. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #133

There seem to be a number of people that are willing to acknowledge certain realities. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #138

Because it has high entertainment value? hack89 Dec 2011 #142

And you've been very entertaining. Thank you. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #159

There are entire web sites devoted to the "hard science" of creationism hack89 Dec 2011 #175

So 'creationism' and 'nuclear physics' share the same footing for you? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #188

No - it's the bizarre logic that stitches together hack89 Dec 2011 #191

You mean like the conspiracy theory that so many DUers have bought into The Doctor. Jan 2012 #192

The fact you can't tell the difference is telling hack89 Jan 2012 #198

That went clean over your head. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #200

I like to stick to science and real facts hack89 Jan 2012 #203

So, you don't believe the energy industry has conspired to cover-up The Doctor. Jan 2012 #205

I was thinking more about the CIA sticking plutonium up Hugo's ass. hack89 Jan 2012 #207

Secrecy is not a requirement of a conspiracy. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #209

Never said they did not hack89 Jan 2012 #212

Which is of course bullshit. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #217

Spreaking of desperation... Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #147

The more derision you resort to, the more weak you appear. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #158

Sorry, but anytime I see "prove it ISN'T true," I ridicule, as anyone should. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #160

Therein lies the proof of your dishonesty. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #189

Man, could you ever benefit from a few courses in logic. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #190

Don't carcinogens cause cancer? Occulus Jan 2012 #195

The Chavezistas won't go so far as to say it DID happen. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #196

This is the funniest thread on DU in a LONG time! Thanks Hugo! BeHereNow Dec 2011 #141

On the up side... Steerpike Dec 2011 #168

He could get a job with Comedy Central Mudoria Dec 2011 #184

what, did we sell them cigarettes? 0rganism Jan 2012 #202

There are two questions here really: Fool Count Jan 2012 #218

slow poison katsung47 Jan 2012 #219

they did it to arafat! agnesangst Feb 2013 #220