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236. Looks like Alan Dershowitz agrees with me about "marked classified"

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:57 AM

Jul 2016

As I posted in #98 in this thread.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/286614-did-fbi-director-comey-exceed-his-authority

Third, Comey used an unusual verbal formulation in discussing classified information. This is what he said:

"Only a small number of the emails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information."

He did not explain what he meant by the words "bore markings." Does this mean that they were stamped "classified"? Or does it mean that there were indications within the text of the emails that would show that it was in fact classified? The confusion was exacerbated by Comey's next sentence in which he said the following:

"But even if information is not marked 'classified' in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject is classified are obligated to protect it."

Comey's use of the words "marked classified" seems to suggest that there is a distinction between emails that were marked "classified" and emails that "bore markings indicating the presence of classified information."

This use of different verbal formulations suggests that none of the emails were actually marked "classified." I may be wrong in that surmise, but it is certainly suggested by how Comey used these different formulations.

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Let's clear up this what I think is a mis-statement by some commentators OKNancy Jul 2016 #98

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Mahalo, Surya! Cha Jul 2016 #187

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Is he repub?.. sounds like he should get blowback for this! Cha Jul 2016 #195

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And, cold enough it will be. Cha Jul 2016 #204

The second person to benefit the most from this announcement Elmergantry Jul 2016 #188

That was what I expected. What I think was inappropriate was for Comey to be so critical of Clinton Vattel Jul 2016 #189

He overstepped his brief. As I said elsewhere: Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #197

well-said Vattel Jul 2016 #211

The report would've been released anyway, saying the same thing. 7962 Jul 2016 #219

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You're taxing her with a charge of perjury? Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #225

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Well, that's odd. sangfroid Jul 2016 #224

Maybe they'll all show up in Philly? Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #226

Could be. Who can say? sangfroid Jul 2016 #235

I know what would have happened to me if I was that "extremely careless" in handling classified data hobbit709 Jul 2016 #227

So, Comey, the Republican appointee, who's been after the Clintons since his days as the White Water Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #228

Take it any way you want. I know what would have been done to me as an E-4 back in 1970-73. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #229

I'm asking you. Are you saying that your commanding officer would've called for indictment Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #230

Don't know much about how the military works, do you? hobbit709 Jul 2016 #231

No, that's why I'm asking you. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #232

It's called Non-judicial punishment (or Article 15) sangfroid Jul 2016 #237

Inasmuch as this present investigation has absolutely nothing to do with the military Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #243

Then why ask questions about it? sangfroid Jul 2016 #250

Your choice (and mine, of course) to assign value or not to any given exchange. Have at it. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #254

Disgusting. Pryderi Jul 2016 #233

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Disgusting that no charges were brought. n/t Pryderi Jul 2016 #239

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Looks like Alan Dershowitz agrees with me about "marked classified" OKNancy Jul 2016 #236

Comey did his damn best to impugn Hillary's integrity by using weasel words that Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #248

Told ya. sofa king Jul 2016 #238

^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #246

You all can support Hillary and think she did no wrong, but I respectfully disagree. MonteSS Jul 2016 #240

I'm sure Comey and C° would be grateful to hear your POV. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #242

"But this to me will really make me RECONSIDER her." Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #244

You could also substitute Loki Jul 2016 #245

^^^AMEN to this!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #247