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4. Manning is not a nice person

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:04 AM

Jul 2016

and it bugs me that she is being propped up as some sort of hero.

I know someone who is very close to my family who served with Manning in the Army.
What she tells me reassures me that Manning is where she belongs.

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Developing: Whistleblower Chelsea Manning Taken to Hospital [View all] portlander23 Jul 2016 OP

Poor Chelsea! Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #1

Manning deserves a pardon and a medal and a statue on the Washington Mall. Scuba Jul 2016 #3

...!100++++ 840high Jul 2016 #13

Scuba - I totally agree with you.... Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #37

+1000 LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #78

I wish her well; but/and ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #2

Manning is not a nice person OKNancy Jul 2016 #4

Details? I'm not always a nice person either, Ilsa Jul 2016 #81

While I am grateful that I'm more aware of what we did because of the document dump NWCorona Jul 2016 #6

And I suspect that was the reason for the 35 year term. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #7

She was hiding her true self when she joined the military. MADem Jul 2016 #21

Are we sure we can attribute it to her being trans? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #83

We are not sure of anything, really. MADem Jul 2016 #84

Whistle blowing is an honorable tradition DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #85

I don't think she was whistle blowing. MADem Jul 2016 #86

She did read some of it and claimed to sickened by it Ash_F Jul 2016 #63

there was no evidence presented at her trial that anyone was harmed and yurbud Jul 2016 #90

The crime she was convicted of was not ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #91

her crime was against those with financial power not us yurbud Jul 2016 #92

Okay ... unresponsive; but, okay. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #95

to the hypocrites: The General Who Lost 2 Wars, Leaked Classified Information to His Lover� askeptic Jul 2016 #5

I know this will ring hollow, as most of reality does ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #9

True. forest444 Jul 2016 #12

Yes ... The way the world actually works can be reprehensible at times. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #24

He provided his biographer--a LCOL in the Army--with material to which she MADem Jul 2016 #22

Comey said the materials were in his desk at home, BTW. nt Ilsa Jul 2016 #82

More evidence that we have a class of people virtually above the law! Dustlawyer Jul 2016 #76

35 years is ridiculous alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #8

No. It isn't/wasn't. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #10

Explain yourself - this is a discussion board. askeptic Jul 2016 #11

Tone matters, you know. Demands are unlikely to produce civil conversation. MADem Jul 2016 #16

What does that mean? christx30 Jul 2016 #25

The sentence was imposed. That means it is supported. MADem Jul 2016 #26

^^^ This, right here MohRokTah Jul 2016 #40

She did not do "the right thing" metalbot Jul 2016 #79

It is a harsh sentence. Is it unmerited? I'm of two minds on this. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #18

Counterpoint: Yes it is Ash_F Jul 2016 #65

Yes it is. 840high Jul 2016 #14

Military Times is calling it a suicide attempt. MADem Jul 2016 #15

That is extremely sad. I do remember the restrictions imposed in the Quantico msanthrope Jul 2016 #19

Leavenworth is accustomed to hospitalizing individuals if needs must. MADem Jul 2016 #20

My understanding is that she is currently involved in attempting msanthrope Jul 2016 #27

Not sure what the protocol is, but she is receiving the hormones, from what I understand. MADem Jul 2016 #36

Remember the complaints about that? jberryhill Jul 2016 #61

Yes....I remember the complaints about her not having a pillow. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #80

The Network that Must Not be Named B2G Jul 2016 #17

They all have it--print and video outlets. nt MADem Jul 2016 #29

And yet General Petraeus is a free man, even though he gave classified documents Rex Jul 2016 #23

His mistress had clearance (though she wasn't on the access list). MADem Jul 2016 #28

But they could have released secrets to the world, that is the point. Rex Jul 2016 #31

They were both career military, engaged in a clandestine relationship. MADem Jul 2016 #34

They kept and passed along classified information that they had no business having. Rex Jul 2016 #38

That is simply not true. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #41

Wrong. Rex Jul 2016 #42

I'm sorry, but you are just plain wrong. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #43

So that is a no, who cares what harm he might have done? Rex Jul 2016 #44

The actions were full adjudicated. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #45

Right you buy that I don't. He is a traitor to his country, proven in court. Rex Jul 2016 #46

Again, you put forth an opinion unsupported by both the facts... MohRokTah Jul 2016 #48

Wrong the court proved he was a traitor, make up whatever you want to. Rex Jul 2016 #50

There was no finding of treason MohRokTah Jul 2016 #51

See post #23. Rex Jul 2016 #52

See post #51. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #54

See post #23. Rex Jul 2016 #55

See post #51 MohRokTah Jul 2016 #56

Glad you agree with me now. Rex Jul 2016 #57

Post #51 stands completely in opposition to your invalid opinion. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #58

See post #23. Rex Jul 2016 #59

Buh bye. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #60

Right. Rex Jul 2016 #62

I read all your replies uhnope Jul 2016 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Jul 2016 #93

No, they did not. That book she wrote was scrubbed before it was published. MADem Jul 2016 #49

Exactly see post #23, glad people get it now. Rex Jul 2016 #53

The only thing Petraeus and Manning have in common is as follows. MADem Jul 2016 #69

Oh right all two of you. Rex Jul 2016 #71

Its ok to be careless with classified info if you are a general or running for president. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #32

How do we know what he and his mistress released into the world? We have their word for it? Rex Jul 2016 #33

Chelsea Manning cut off from lawyers amid hospitalization rumors Eugene Jul 2016 #30

If the prison didn't allow access to Manning, I would suggest the reason for that was MEDICAL. MADem Jul 2016 #35

Good On you 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #75

Developing: Convicted Spy Chelsea Manning Taken to Hospital MohRokTah Jul 2016 #39

WikiLeaks: Texas Company Helped Pimp Little Boys To Stoned Afghan Cops Ash_F Jul 2016 #66

... Chelsea Manning was taken to a hospital near Fort Leavenworth early Tuesday and returned struggle4progress Jul 2016 #47

Reading this thread G_j Jul 2016 #64

Agreed. nt LostOne4Ever Jul 2016 #68

Must be nice to be government C-level employees, get all kinds of benefits. Rex Jul 2016 #72

And it's a clear message that the war on whistleblowers will get worse under the next president. nt bananas Jul 2016 #73

With all the Liberals gone to Greener pastures -- Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2016 #88

Just release her already. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #67

She had a legal alternative hack89 Jul 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author NobodyHere Jul 2016 #70

Suicide attempt or not, the timing is interesting. merrily Jul 2016 #77

Why is the timing interesting? NobodyHere Jul 2016 #87

I hate it when people try to prop Manning up as some sort of hero. NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #94