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askeptic

(478 posts)
5. to the hypocrites:  The General Who Lost 2 Wars, Leaked Classified Information to His Lover—
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:18 AM
Jul 2016

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-general-who-lost-2-wars-leaked-classified-information-to-his-lover-and-retired-with-a-220000-pension/
The General Who Lost 2 Wars, Leaked Classified Information to His Lover—and Retired With a $220,000 Pension
 Why hasn’t David Petraeus faced the same career-ending consequences as other leakers?

 Watching the retired general in action, I was reminded of the peculiarity of this peculiar era—an age of generals whose careers are made in winless wars; years in which such high-ranking, mission-unaccomplished officers rotate through revolving doors that lead not only to top posts with major weapons merchants, but also too-big-to-fail banks, top universities, cutting-edge tech companies, healthcare firms, and other corporate behemoths. Hardly a soul, it seems, cares that these generals and admirals have had leading roles in quagmire wars or even, in two prominent cases, saw their government service cease as a result of career-ending scandal. And Citizen David Petraeus is undoubtedly the epitome of this phenomenon.

Celebrated as the most cerebral of generals, the West Point grad and Princeton PhD rose to stardom during the Iraq War—credited with pacifying the restive city of Mosul before becoming one of the architects of the new Iraqi Army. Petraeus would then return to the United States where he revamped and revived the Army’s failed counterinsurgency doctrine from the Vietnam War, before being tapped to lead the “Surge” of US forces in Iraq—an effort to turn around the foundering conflict. Through it all, Petraeus waged one of the most deft self-promotion campaigns in recent memory, cultivating politicians, academics, and especially fawning journalists who reported on his running stamina, his penchant for push-ups, and even—I kid you not—how he woke a lieutenant from what was thought to be an irreversible coma by shouting the battle cry of his unit.

 He retired from the Army in 2011 to take a job as director of the CIA, only to resign in disgrace a year later when it was revealed that he had leaked classified information to his biographer and one-time lover Paula Broadwell and then lied about it to the FBI. Thanks to a deal with federal prosecutors, Petraeus pled guilty to just a single misdemeanor and served no jail time, allowing him, as The New York Times reported last year, “to focus on his lucrative post-government career as a partner in a private equity firm and a worldwide speaker on national security issues.”

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Poor Chelsea! Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #1
Manning deserves a pardon and a medal and a statue on the Washington Mall. Scuba Jul 2016 #3
...!100++++ 840high Jul 2016 #13
Scuba - I totally agree with you.... Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #37
+1000 LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #78
I wish her well; but/and ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #2
Manning is not a nice person OKNancy Jul 2016 #4
Details? I'm not always a nice person either, Ilsa Jul 2016 #81
While I am grateful that I'm more aware of what we did because of the document dump NWCorona Jul 2016 #6
And I suspect that was the reason for the 35 year term. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #7
She was hiding her true self when she joined the military. MADem Jul 2016 #21
Are we sure we can attribute it to her being trans? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #83
We are not sure of anything, really. MADem Jul 2016 #84
Whistle blowing is an honorable tradition DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #85
I don't think she was whistle blowing. MADem Jul 2016 #86
She did read some of it and claimed to sickened by it Ash_F Jul 2016 #63
there was no evidence presented at her trial that anyone was harmed and yurbud Jul 2016 #90
The crime she was convicted of was not ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #91
her crime was against those with financial power not us yurbud Jul 2016 #92
Okay ... unresponsive; but, okay. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #95
to the hypocrites:  The General Who Lost 2 Wars, Leaked Classified Information to His Lover— askeptic Jul 2016 #5
I know this will ring hollow, as most of reality does ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #9
True. forest444 Jul 2016 #12
Yes ... The way the world actually works can be reprehensible at times. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #24
He provided his biographer--a LCOL in the Army--with material to which she MADem Jul 2016 #22
Comey said the materials were in his desk at home, BTW. nt Ilsa Jul 2016 #82
More evidence that we have a class of people virtually above the law! Dustlawyer Jul 2016 #76
35 years is ridiculous alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #8
No. It isn't/wasn't. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #10
Explain yourself - this is a discussion board. askeptic Jul 2016 #11
Tone matters, you know. Demands are unlikely to produce civil conversation. MADem Jul 2016 #16
What does that mean? christx30 Jul 2016 #25
The sentence was imposed. That means it is supported. MADem Jul 2016 #26
^^^ This, right here MohRokTah Jul 2016 #40
She did not do "the right thing" metalbot Jul 2016 #79
It is a harsh sentence. Is it unmerited? I'm of two minds on this. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #18
Counterpoint: Yes it is Ash_F Jul 2016 #65
Yes it is. 840high Jul 2016 #14
Military Times is calling it a suicide attempt. MADem Jul 2016 #15
That is extremely sad. I do remember the restrictions imposed in the Quantico msanthrope Jul 2016 #19
Leavenworth is accustomed to hospitalizing individuals if needs must. MADem Jul 2016 #20
My understanding is that she is currently involved in attempting msanthrope Jul 2016 #27
Not sure what the protocol is, but she is receiving the hormones, from what I understand. MADem Jul 2016 #36
Remember the complaints about that? jberryhill Jul 2016 #61
Yes....I remember the complaints about her not having a pillow. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #80
The Network that Must Not be Named B2G Jul 2016 #17
They all have it--print and video outlets. nt MADem Jul 2016 #29
And yet General Petraeus is a free man, even though he gave classified documents Rex Jul 2016 #23
His mistress had clearance (though she wasn't on the access list). MADem Jul 2016 #28
But they could have released secrets to the world, that is the point. Rex Jul 2016 #31
They were both career military, engaged in a clandestine relationship. MADem Jul 2016 #34
They kept and passed along classified information that they had no business having. Rex Jul 2016 #38
That is simply not true. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #41
Wrong. Rex Jul 2016 #42
I'm sorry, but you are just plain wrong. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #43
So that is a no, who cares what harm he might have done? Rex Jul 2016 #44
The actions were full adjudicated. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #45
Right you buy that I don't. He is a traitor to his country, proven in court. Rex Jul 2016 #46
Again, you put forth an opinion unsupported by both the facts... MohRokTah Jul 2016 #48
Wrong the court proved he was a traitor, make up whatever you want to. Rex Jul 2016 #50
There was no finding of treason MohRokTah Jul 2016 #51
See post #23. Rex Jul 2016 #52
See post #51. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #54
See post #23. Rex Jul 2016 #55
See post #51 MohRokTah Jul 2016 #56
Glad you agree with me now. Rex Jul 2016 #57
Post #51 stands completely in opposition to your invalid opinion. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #58
See post #23. Rex Jul 2016 #59
Buh bye. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #60
Right. Rex Jul 2016 #62
I read all your replies uhnope Jul 2016 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Jul 2016 #93
No, they did not. That book she wrote was scrubbed before it was published. MADem Jul 2016 #49
Exactly see post #23, glad people get it now. Rex Jul 2016 #53
The only thing Petraeus and Manning have in common is as follows. MADem Jul 2016 #69
Oh right all two of you. Rex Jul 2016 #71
Its ok to be careless with classified info if you are a general or running for president. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #32
How do we know what he and his mistress released into the world? We have their word for it? Rex Jul 2016 #33
Chelsea Manning cut off from lawyers amid hospitalization rumors Eugene Jul 2016 #30
If the prison didn't allow access to Manning, I would suggest the reason for that was MEDICAL. MADem Jul 2016 #35
Good On you 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #75
Developing: Convicted Spy Chelsea Manning Taken to Hospital MohRokTah Jul 2016 #39
WikiLeaks: Texas Company Helped Pimp Little Boys To Stoned Afghan Cops Ash_F Jul 2016 #66
... Chelsea Manning was taken to a hospital near Fort Leavenworth early Tuesday and returned struggle4progress Jul 2016 #47
Reading this thread G_j Jul 2016 #64
Agreed. nt LostOne4Ever Jul 2016 #68
Must be nice to be government C-level employees, get all kinds of benefits. Rex Jul 2016 #72
And it's a clear message that the war on whistleblowers will get worse under the next president. nt bananas Jul 2016 #73
With all the Liberals gone to Greener pastures -- Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2016 #88
Just release her already. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #67
She had a legal alternative hack89 Jul 2016 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author NobodyHere Jul 2016 #70
Suicide attempt or not, the timing is interesting. merrily Jul 2016 #77
Why is the timing interesting? NobodyHere Jul 2016 #87
I hate it when people try to prop Manning up as some sort of hero. NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #94
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