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Igel

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10. There are two ways forward.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:11 AM
Jul 2016

The first is confrontational, where each group fights and kicks and screams for self-validating concessions. "Look what we managed to force the _______________ to do."

The second is introspective, where each group looks inward to see exactly how they've dehumanized and produced more fear and distrust of the other group.

I mean, I've already read a post here whining that the police killed the suspect who was armed, killed some cops already, said wanted to kill more cops, and was barricaded in. He deserved a trial to show he was guilty, and the police were racist and wrong to end the situation that way. We built that kind of hate, brick by brick.

Sadly, introspection can be derailed by this kind of thing because it requires placidity, not outrage. Introspection requires two paths of reasoning--the first is to examine distrust and why we have the distrust. The second is to examine why the other side's distrust exists and where we might have contributed to it. We usually think of the "proper" course as them trying to work out why we distrust them and our trying to work out why we're distrustful and what they can do to fix it. It's all their fault, in other words. Some concern last night over the Dallas shooting was precisely to this point: If the shooter was a black man, crap--it's hard to hold this POV and it changes the narrative. It's distracting from the real issues, but the only real issues are our issues.

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He learned to shoot well that is for sure. riversedge Jul 2016 #1
Oh boy... ansible Jul 2016 #2
Pretty much, yeah. christx30 Jul 2016 #4
There are two ways forward. Igel Jul 2016 #10
He made it too easy for them. Yukari Yakumo Jul 2016 #23
Holy Shit, Professor Griff? maxsolomon Jul 2016 #11
he has tweeted to let people know he does NOT know this deranged killer Skittles Jul 2016 #31
He came out with the quickness! And rightfully so NWCorona Jul 2016 #35
Good Lord, this guy is like a RW stereptype of Black Seperatist extremist. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #18
So, was he the only sniper? morningfog Jul 2016 #3
I highly doubt it AntiBank Jul 2016 #5
Good question. What happened to "triangulating" and ambush GreatGazoo Jul 2016 #6
so now it was a lone gunman? Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #16
I don't think any definitive statements supporting your premise have been made. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #20
they have now Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #36
They're still calling the people being held flamingdem Jul 2016 #7
CNN showing ariel footage of neighborhood TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2016 #8
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #9
So does open carry of weapons and the massive push of arming America 10 fold rladdi Jul 2016 #12
I'm not a fan of open carry TeddyR Jul 2016 #19
Yet the man open carrying sarisataka Jul 2016 #22
I had that thought too. christx30 Jul 2016 #26
Just another legal gun owner. nt onehandle Jul 2016 #13
just another gun humping nutcase Skittles Jul 2016 #30
A former veteran? romanic Jul 2016 #14
Racism kills FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #15
The Drumpfists are going to have a field day with this. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #17
US Army Veteran.. that says it all... olddad56 Jul 2016 #21
Any evidence that he had PTSD? The only evidence so far is he was a virulent racist. 7962 Jul 2016 #24
+1 FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #25
not all people with PTSD are potential shooters, in fact very few... olddad56 Jul 2016 #28
I wasn't insulting anyone, you made that connection on your own. olddad56 Jul 2016 #29
By immediately diagnosing him with PTSD, you were. 7962 Jul 2016 #32
fuck that guy Demonaut Jul 2016 #27
Well, THAT was right to the point! nt 7962 Jul 2016 #33
One man, one of 'our own' dealt out all that death? why did police 'have to' kill him? Sunlei Jul 2016 #34
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