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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
21. It's the anti-Corbynites who stopped the branch meetings, not the Corbynites.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:06 AM
Jul 2016

Corbyn and his supporters(and please stop talking about Momentum as if it is an anti-Labour conspiracy...its place in the party is at least as legitimate as Progress, and certainly more legitimate than Portland Communications)WANT the branch meetings to go on.

The reason the anti-Corbynites(they did this in an illegitimate move when Corbyn and his allies had left the meeting, which was supposed to adjourn as soon as Corbyn's ballot status was resolved, as there were no other items on the agenda) banned branch meetings is that the overwhelming majority of the branches are pro-Corbyn and kept passing motions of no-confidence in the anti-Corbyn MPs the branches had just been responsible for re-electing in 2015.

I don't despise anyone. I disagree with anti-democratic actions and any attempts to prevent Labour from breaking with the pre-2015 status quo. There was simpy no reason for Corbyn's opponents not to be content with launching a leadership contest under party rules(rules that clearly mandate Corbyn's presence), or, at the least, not to agree to implement at least most of the policies the Corbyn movement-a movement which comprises the overwhelming majority of the party outside of the PLP-supports.

If they just wanted a different leader, they had no good reason not to agree to those things.

Instead, they made it clear that they would settle for nothing short of Corbyn's resignation, the exclusion of Corbyn or anyone even close to him on the issues from the leadership ballot, and the erasure of the entire Corbyn movement from the party.

What right did they have to be so arrogant, autocratic and inflexible on all of this?

Why could they not, at the least, played fair and acted democratically?

I don't hate them as people...I simply find their actions indefensible.

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And the fight to strip Labour of principles and bar the reintroduction of internal democracy goes on Ken Burch Jun 2016 #1
The problem is going the Corbyn route makes them unelectable. I remember the wilderness years of OnDoutside Jun 2016 #2
That was thirty years ago. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #4
Labour is currently using the media very badly or not at all T_i_B Jul 2016 #15
Then why haven't they said they won't try to stop the restoration of internal democracy? Ken Burch Jul 2016 #17
Er, I hate to break the news to you... T_i_B Jul 2016 #18
It's the anti-Corbynites who made it harder to become Labour members and supporters. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #19
It's the people you despise who've actually opposed those rule changes T_i_B Jul 2016 #20
It's the anti-Corbynites who stopped the branch meetings, not the Corbynites. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #21
So wanking over Corbyn takes precedence over all other branch considerations? T_i_B Jul 2016 #22
I don't want it to be anyone's cult. Corbyn is just one man. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #23
That is the way Momentum (and Corbyn) are heading T_i_B Jul 2016 #24
I outlined a way the anti-Corbynites could take this out of "left v. right" framing Ken Burch Jul 2016 #25
Regardless, Corbyn should be long gone Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #10
leaders who don't lead are not leaders nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #11
Leaders who don't have strong convictions are not leaders. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #12
Corbyn is in hot water becaues he didn't put much effort into stopping the xenophobic Brexit crowd. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13
Replacing him with someone who supports the benefits cap, the budget charter, bombing Syria Ken Burch Jun 2016 #14
Don't know much about her but Corbyn should step down. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #3
If Corbyn does step down, they'll change the rules to block any left-wing candidate from standing. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #5
How would they stop a candidate from the left from standing? hrmjustin Jun 2016 #6
They will increase the number of nominations a leadership candidate has from Labour MPs. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #7
I think 35 is a reasonable number and should not be changed. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #8
Thank you. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #9
Angela Eagle? T_i_B Jul 2016 #16
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