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2. Dumb propaganda

Mon Jul 18, 2016, 05:43 AM

Jul 2016

First: it's not "news" when someone repeats a false claim they made months, if not years ago already.

Second: it's not true that 'Russia' has 'accused Ukraine' of killing the passengers of that plane.

It is, however, absolutely true that 'independent investigators', who - in contrast to the 'group' referred to in the OP - actually have expertise in relevant fields, namely a German airline pilot (Peter Haisenko) and a former military officer with extensive expertise on Russian missile systems (Bernd Biedermann), have dismissed the Buk theory as inconsistent with the available evidence. They believe MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian fighter plane.

But feel free to continue promoting the chubby little liar.

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Bellingcat claims Russia faked MH17 evidence to accuse Ukraine [View all] uhnope Jul 2016 OP

Russia all but shot it down Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #1

Dumb propaganda reorg Jul 2016 #2

so a screen grab of Kremlin talking points in a personal insulting attack uhnope Jul 2016 #3

I guess you meant this picture reorg Jul 2016 #6

Please post more from the stock of Kremlin agitprop images uhnope Jul 2016 #7

Are you employed by the state propaganda channel RFE? reorg Jul 2016 #8

+100 AntiBank Jul 2016 #11

Cheap shot. He may have been an amatuer but he is well educated now and the rest of his group... marble falls Jul 2016 #4

Not an expert in any way reorg Jul 2016 #5

deny, deflect, distract.... uhnope Jul 2016 #9

post neocon bilge, tools of the trade AntiBank Jul 2016 #12

So our only choices are a "chubby little liar" or some pilot and DIY "expert"? FBaggins Jul 2016 #13

No these are not the only choices reorg Jul 2016 #18

Yet you seem desperate to ignore the DSB report FBaggins Jul 2016 #29

Desperate? I didn't even mention it. reorg Jul 2016 #32

Actually... you tried really hard to avoid mentioning it FBaggins Jul 2016 #33

Look, I'm not interested reorg Jul 2016 #34

If I had embarassed myself that badly, I wouldn't be interested in continuing either... FBaggins Jul 2016 #38

oh, is that so ... my 'scores' of posts 'over the last COUPLE OF YEARS' reorg Jul 2016 #39

this was a masterful takedown & dissection uhnope Jul 2016 #35

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typical neocon claptrap posting , and to use thoroughly discredited Eliot Higgins? LOLOL AntiBank Jul 2016 #10

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"it makes my OPs look even better" uawchild Jul 2016 #23

Is Higgins being PAID to write this stuff? uawchild Jul 2016 #20

omg--irony is so dead on the Internet uhnope Jul 2016 #22

Bellingcat is LBN like Nakedcapitalism is LBN, i.e. not LBN. bemildred Jul 2016 #14

always is this neocon dregs in LBN and elsewhere AntiBank Jul 2016 #17

yeah yeah yeah. Anything truthful about the Russia gov = "neocon" uhnope Jul 2016 #19

um no, it's from a news site uhnope Jul 2016 #21

RFEL is a government news site. bemildred Jul 2016 #24

so is the BBC if you want to get down to it uhnope Jul 2016 #25

Yeah, I like BBC too. bemildred Jul 2016 #26

Radio Free Europe is a known US propaganda site uawchild Jul 2016 #27

There are no unbiased sites. Zippo, none. We are on our own out here. Nobody to trust. bemildred Jul 2016 #28

True, but SOME are more BIASED than others. uawchild Jul 2016 #30

Gone West Again Young M? uhnope Jul 2016 #31

I'd pointed out a few of them back in '14... Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #36

and lest anyone forget: Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #37