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Scruffy1

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29. Having grown up next to its borders I disagree.

Wed Jul 27, 2016, 04:21 AM

Jul 2016

The border war was simmering in both Iowa and Kansas prior to the Civil War, largely because Missouri was a slave state. If memory serves me correctly The Missouri legislature voted to succeed. Unfortunately for them the 1st Iowa regiment crossed the border without orders and the legislature fled. Saint Louis was very pro union, but most of the rest of the state was had Southern sympathies. Missouri was really mostly occupied enemy territory and was one of the first places that black union troops (from Kansas fought. Guerrilla bands were a huge problem in Missouri. Having lived on both the Iowa and Kansas borders as a boy I would say that the locals still regarded Missouri as a backward place. The standard joke was that the sign at the border said "Welcome to Misery".

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Poll: Trump leads Clinton in Mo. by 10 points [View all] pstokely Jul 2016 OP

"Establishment Republicans" agree with what Trump is saying Renew Deal Jul 2016 #1

White voters drawn by racialized fear bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #2

Missouri=confederate state + 2 northern cities geek tragedy Jul 2016 #3

Hmm TeddyR Jul 2016 #22

Exactly. nt Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #23

You must have been asleep in history class. former9thward Jul 2016 #26

Having grown up next to its borders I disagree. Scruffy1 Jul 2016 #29

I think the poster meant Confederate in character, not formal allegiance. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #31

yes, I know the history. Have you talked to old white people from rural Missouri geek tragedy Jul 2016 #39

No but I have talked to old white people from central CA about it. former9thward Jul 2016 #40

McCain won white voters in Missouri 57-42 against Obama. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #41

Not in central and northern CA former9thward Jul 2016 #42

Obama lost to McCain by less than 4,000 votes there Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #37

2008 was an extreme year--people were just realizing how bad Bush was. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #38

There's red meat bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #4

Well, it's fucking Missouri, for Pete's sake. Aristus Jul 2016 #5

Bill Clinton won Missouri twice oberliner Jul 2016 #6

I think Dumpf wins MO by single digits pstokely Jul 2016 #7

I hope so. Aristus Jul 2016 #8

it can be won,but it's not worth wasting resources in instead of a more competitive pstokely Jul 2016 #12

HRC should crush Trump Botany Jul 2016 #9

Which works in MO. apnu Jul 2016 #11

I have floated the Buffalo River in Arkansas .... Cross the state line from MO. Botany Jul 2016 #13

looks like a good climbing crag. Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #14

Yeah, so not much has changed. apnu Jul 2016 #17

Where is your link that "OH is gone from Trump now" former9thward Jul 2016 #27

this help? Botany Jul 2016 #34

Nope, not at all. former9thward Jul 2016 #35

Uh... Romney beat Obama in MO by 10 points in 2012. apnu Jul 2016 #10

How'd that work our for Romney? Democat Jul 2016 #18

Yes indeed! apnu Jul 2016 #19

Missouri has gone R every election since 1980 except 92 and 96 onenote Jul 2016 #15

Fucking disgusting and I live in this state. Loki Jul 2016 #16

WTF is wrong with them. Scorpionflyx Jul 2016 #20

Missouri is Kansas City and St. Louis (and maybe Columbia) with Alabama in between. LongTomH Jul 2016 #21

Yeah I know 47of74 Jul 2016 #36

Why is this surprising to anyone? TeddyR Jul 2016 #24

Not necessarily. roamer65 Jul 2016 #25

won't Mormons vote Dumpf? pstokely Jul 2016 #33

I think Democrats have a better chance winning North Carolina than Missouri. JI7 Jul 2016 #28

Due to demographics, Dems probably have better chances of flipping GA and AZ than MO pstokely Jul 2016 #30

We have our share of racist assholes leftyladyfrommo Jul 2016 #32