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procon

(15,805 posts)
24. What the hell does "access to the outside" have to do with healthcare!
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 10:53 AM
Jul 2016

Its clear that she is NOT "receiving the same amount of care and treatment as all others", because the other prisoners obviously aren't all trying to kill themselves.

This isn't the horror show of Abu Ghraib, some Soviet era gulag, or a Hollywood version of a third world prison, in this country we still afford prisoners rights and protections under our has Constitutional laws. That's the very concept that our soldiers fight for. Iit's not limited to just the privileged few that people like you deem worthy of just and equitable care, it's for everyone. We don't allow an option for retaliation against those we disagree with.

Yet here you are, arguing from such such an immoral, illogical and unAmerican position, that we'd have a class system that divides us and gives props to sickos who say its OK to torment and abuse those people who are not in a position to protect themselves or even get medical care without the assistance of others, because they are found wanting. That dystopian view is nothing that is even remotely American.

Well. That should cure her suicidal tendencies. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #1
Or make her try again every day. merrily Jul 2016 #8
That's what I think, too. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #26
The beatings will continue until morale improves. nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #55
This is not justice. This is vindictive... think Jul 2016 #2
If it's the rules for everyone in the military Democat Jul 2016 #4
There is such a thing as prosecutorial discretion. Has everyone in the military merrily Jul 2016 #7
This sounds more like cruel and unusual punishment. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #19
I am not smart enough to know that. But I know it sounds brutish, sadistic cruel and merrily Jul 2016 #21
It's cruel and I doubt it is customary. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #22
The way I read it ... TipTok Jul 2016 #32
It has changed 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #36
In the past British law punished people who attempted suicide with tblue37 Jul 2016 #56
I know they have that in civilian courts but do the prosecutors for the military have it as well? cstanleytech Jul 2016 #25
Yes. merrily Jul 2016 #40
They brought her up on charges for EXPIRED TOOTHPASTE!!! Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #10
UCMJ is the law for military..... beachbum bob Jul 2016 #3
Please see Reply 7. Thanks. merrily Jul 2016 #9
It's the job of our elected legislative people to change bad laws. JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #14
That's just unnecessary, petty vindictiveness. procon Jul 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Jul 2016 #11
This is prison 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #12
Your post makes me weep. You are on the wrong side of this. Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #13
No I am not 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #16
I can hear you are full of anger Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #20
No not even close 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #23
Fortunately cvoogt Jul 2016 #29
It is zero sum though 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #39
*cough* TipTok Jul 2016 #43
yup. cvoogt Jul 2016 #61
Clueless, distasteful post. For your own sake, you should consider a self delete. merrily Jul 2016 #15
What the hell does "access to the outside" have to do with healthcare! procon Jul 2016 #24
Military is guided by the UCMJ 4Q2u2 Jul 2016 #34
How does Manning have more access to the outside than anyone else? NobodyHere Jul 2016 #78
Ooohhhh... the agony. Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #6
Manning earned every one of those 35 years... TipTok Jul 2016 #17
You make me weep. Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #18
Which part of the invasion of Iraq was correct? n/t xocet Jul 2016 #33
People can and have written big thick books about that topic... TipTok Jul 2016 #35
Agree 100% calguy Jul 2016 #38
"As liberal as they come" seems to be an overestimate. n/t xocet Jul 2016 #44
Yep. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #53
I was just wondering if you also thought the invasion was wrong and that you also thought that xocet Jul 2016 #41
Yup. NT Adrahil Jul 2016 #62
Manning joined the Army in 2007. Adrahil Jul 2016 #63
That is beside the point. n/t xocet Jul 2016 #66
Not if an oath means anything. Adrahil Jul 2016 #71
Your point is absolutely true in the context you intend. My point is that the entire idea of xocet Jul 2016 #75
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #42
Many thought Jackie Robinson earned his court-martial and prosecution in 1944 as well. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #48
What are you suggesting that we don't know... TipTok Jul 2016 #50
but GWB and shooter cheney got off scott free. olddad56 Jul 2016 #67
He got to steal two pieces of candy... TipTok Jul 2016 #70
I have no pity for this traitor calguy Jul 2016 #27
FYI... xocet Jul 2016 #37
I feel sick to my stomach. demmiblue Jul 2016 #28
I think "she's" playing a sympathy card calguy Jul 2016 #30
Wow... "she's". Go away. n/t demmiblue Jul 2016 #31
"She"? ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #54
DU is usually pretty good at putting a stop to this sort of thing. demmiblue Jul 2016 #57
Guess not. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #58
I would delete or change Turin_C3PO Jul 2016 #69
As usual the DU militarists pile on Chelsea . . FairWinds Jul 2016 #45
The biggest difference is intent... TipTok Jul 2016 #46
Sure, Libby & Armitage were only being careless . . FairWinds Jul 2016 #47
I would not classify myself as a "militarist" calguy Jul 2016 #49
Yup, you stand with . . FairWinds Jul 2016 #52
Sorry to disappoint you calguy Jul 2016 #60
That is the military. Attempted suicide is a crime. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #51
what is the penalty for a successful attempt? olddad56 Jul 2016 #68
An tempting suicide is punishable under the USMJ. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #74
Ironic that an individual who acted against state-supported murder and PufPuf23 Jul 2016 #59
Manning's crime was reckless... but this is overkill. phleshdef Jul 2016 #64
Reckless implies negligence or some sort of casual disregard.... TipTok Jul 2016 #65
Indefinite solitary confinement? That's just torture, and should be illegal... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #72
Manning knew, more than most, the cost of the crime... TipTok Jul 2016 #73
Doesn't excuse inhumane treatment, and its her now. n/t Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #76
It was him during the commission of the crime... TipTok Jul 2016 #77
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