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In reply to the discussion: US launches strikes on IS in Libya [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)36. Besides his writings?
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2015/10/i-wanted-believe-jeremy-corbyn-i-cant-believe-seumas-milne
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He's also an apologist for ... Slobo Milosevic, because Milne has one principle: North America and Europe are always the villains.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/aug/02/warcrimes.serbia
So, in his view, Slobo Milosevic is a poor, victimized man of the people.
He's as anti-USA/NATO as ISIS.
Take Ukraine. Ukrainians overthrew President Viktor Yanukovich last year, after snipers killed dozens of protesters. When they broke into his palace, they found treasures upon treasures icons, carved ivory, Picasso ceramics, ancient books piled up in the garage. Hed had nowhere to put them.
It was pure people power: the street reclaiming democracy from a thuggish kleptocrat. There was plenty for the leftist Milne to cheer here, right? Wrong. And then Ukraines larger neighbour took advantage of the revolutionary governments weakness to annex its southern province. Thats something for Milne to disapprove of, right? Wrong again.
The crisis in Ukraine is a product of the disastrous Versailles-style break-up of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, he told his readers on March 5. The US and its allies have since relentlessly expanded NATO up to Russia's borders it is hardly surprising that Russia has acted to stop the more strategically sensitive and neuralgic Ukraine falling decisively into the western camp.
Putins absorption of Crimea and support for the rebellion in eastern Ukraine is clearly defensive, he wrote, a couple of months later.
It was pure people power: the street reclaiming democracy from a thuggish kleptocrat. There was plenty for the leftist Milne to cheer here, right? Wrong. And then Ukraines larger neighbour took advantage of the revolutionary governments weakness to annex its southern province. Thats something for Milne to disapprove of, right? Wrong again.
The crisis in Ukraine is a product of the disastrous Versailles-style break-up of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, he told his readers on March 5. The US and its allies have since relentlessly expanded NATO up to Russia's borders it is hardly surprising that Russia has acted to stop the more strategically sensitive and neuralgic Ukraine falling decisively into the western camp.
Putins absorption of Crimea and support for the rebellion in eastern Ukraine is clearly defensive, he wrote, a couple of months later.
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For Milne, geopolitics is more important than people. Whatever crisis strikes the world, the Wests to blame. Why did a group of psychopaths attack a magazine and a supermarket in Paris? Without the war waged by western powers, including France, to bring to heel and reoccupy the Arab and Muslim world, last weeks attacks clearly couldnt have taken place.
Why did Anders Breivik slaughter 77 people? What is most striking is how closely he mirrors the ideas and fixations of transatlantic conservatives.
Why did two maniacs in London decapitate an off-duty soldier? They are the predicted consequence of an avalanche of violence unleashed by the US, Britain and others.
Milnes geopolitics spared us having to read how the children of Beslan or the theatregoers of Moscow only had themselves to blame, but office workers in New York had no such luck. Recognition of why people might have been driven to carry out such atrocities, sacrificing their own lives in the process - or why the United States is hated with such bitterness, not only in Arab and Muslim countries, but across the developing world - seems almost entirely absent.
Why did Anders Breivik slaughter 77 people? What is most striking is how closely he mirrors the ideas and fixations of transatlantic conservatives.
Why did two maniacs in London decapitate an off-duty soldier? They are the predicted consequence of an avalanche of violence unleashed by the US, Britain and others.
Milnes geopolitics spared us having to read how the children of Beslan or the theatregoers of Moscow only had themselves to blame, but office workers in New York had no such luck. Recognition of why people might have been driven to carry out such atrocities, sacrificing their own lives in the process - or why the United States is hated with such bitterness, not only in Arab and Muslim countries, but across the developing world - seems almost entirely absent.
He's also an apologist for ... Slobo Milosevic, because Milne has one principle: North America and Europe are always the villains.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/aug/02/warcrimes.serbia
So, in his view, Slobo Milosevic is a poor, victimized man of the people.
He's as anti-USA/NATO as ISIS.
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we're not bombing terrorism, we're bombing an armed militia that occupies territory
geek tragedy
Aug 2016
#7
To make it a military vs a law enforcement concern, I would say that's a very good rule of thumb.
geek tragedy
Aug 2016
#28
"But the ouster of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi left Libya a failed state and a terrorist haven."
uawchild
Aug 2016
#8
the alternative to Qaddafi's overthrow wasn't peace and prosperity, it was a Syria-like scenario nt
geek tragedy
Aug 2016
#9
The Guardian has a different view... "There's nothing moral about Nato's intervention in Libya"
uawchild
Aug 2016
#15
Seamus Milne is an anti-American Stalinist who gloated about the 9.11 attacks.
geek tragedy
Aug 2016
#16
the US was taking sides in a civil war, not terribly difficult to infer that they wanted the other
geek tragedy
Aug 2016
#21
STALINIST? Woah baby, its McCarthyism time! Seamus Milne is an accomplished journalist lol
uawchild
Aug 2016
#20
"has never stopped hating Western governments and blames them for every trouble in the world"
uawchild
Aug 2016
#44
STANDPOINT about Hillary: She has a sense of entitlement which she does not always disguise
uawchild
Aug 2016
#37
Perhaps you need more informaiton about the Libyan government requesting that help.
glennward
Aug 2016
#4