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In reply to the discussion: BREAKING: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate As A Tax [View all]
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)216. Reality? it's going to SAVE their whiney asses BILLIONS. Or would they rather pay for the uninsured
I can never understand WHY republicans act like they know anything about money. They fight this stuff.. and have no clue (or refuse to admit) that as taxpayers we are paying SOO much more for uninsured people using actue care because they can't see a primary doc.
It's insanity. This is a tax ONLY to the people that have not purchased health insurance. It is a REDUCTION in taxes for everyone else. And this is the truth. It will save States billions overall... someone who gets basic coverage will be able to detect problems early. They will be able to see a DOCTOR for things, instead of using the ER which costs thousands.
This is also a victory for hospitals.. they lose billions in indigent care and uninsured care. They can spin it however they like, only the biggest brainwashed idiots will think this is a new tax in the TRUE Sense of the word. It's like calling the fact that we have to have car insurance a TAX.
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It would be a big victory for Romney too were it not for Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Ganja Ninja
Jun 2012
#89
Get out of my head! That's exactly what I was thinking. He will definitely start taking credit for
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jun 2012
#186
If Romney takes credit for ACA, then he might be the first GOP Presidential candidate ...
Kennah
Jun 2012
#326
Great idea...I would not mind having a gun. Will there be discounts for the elderly and blind???
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2012
#280
You are deliberately ignoring the the subsidies, the mandated cost controls, and the rebates.
Ikonoklast
Jun 2012
#205
That's a reasonable explanation that I like much better than the way I'd been looking at it.
yardwork
Jun 2012
#126
Kennedy: "In our view, the entire Act before us is invalid in its entirety."
flpoljunkie
Jun 2012
#94
EXACTLY. Robert reich wrote an article predicitng that ROberts would vote with the liberals only bec
robinlynne
Jun 2012
#223
It was 5-4 as reported by Reuters. 6-3 was for the other decision reported at the same time.
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2012
#86
Regardless of origial intention, it's a good law. Contemplate thirty years of a Bush presidency.
Mister Ed
Jun 2012
#248
Do you think they would spend less time campaigning if the were term limited?
loyalsister
Jun 2012
#289
NO!!! It was not. It survives under tax authority of Congress, but not as a commerce issue.
hlthe2b
Jun 2012
#18
CNN IS A GETTING KILLED. 5 Mins behind the news. Unreal. Don't they watch other channels?
MidwestTransplant
Jun 2012
#29
Drudgereport had the correct news well before them. Then I had to turn to Fox to find out certain.
MidwestTransplant
Jun 2012
#108
They can't penalize states that don't participate in the medicaid expansion. n/t
PoliticAverse
Jun 2012
#82
Both CNN and Fox had banners at first saying it was struck down, then had to reverse that,
highplainsdem
Jun 2012
#43
We project Gore has won Florida, No wait--Bush has so hes' elected, uh, hold on...we retract that...
BlueDemKev
Jun 2012
#212
I always assumed, for that very reason, that he would vote for upholding the ACA. Although I am
Kencorburn
Jun 2012
#146
except for the SC calling it a "tax" - the wingnuts will go to town on this.
progressivebydesign
Jun 2012
#211
Seriously--we buy catastrophic insurance now at about the same cost we will pay in 2014
Maeve
Jun 2012
#247
Supreme Court hints you don't need to pay (this) tax if you feel it's wrong...
FailureToCommunicate
Jun 2012
#61
So, the states can choose not to pay for oral contraceptives (for any reason) and can't
gkhouston
Jun 2012
#85
SAD that Kennedy would rule on it this way. So glad that Roberts was actually fair on this one.
RBInMaine
Jun 2012
#102
if you're a 14yo murderer he'll change the law of the land for you but if get cancer you
leftyohiolib
Jun 2012
#246
That is precisely what deciding against the law would have meant for so many Americans.
JDPriestly
Jun 2012
#303
"Obama opposition disorder" Good one. And sadly, that is the reality behind all
FailureToCommunicate
Jun 2012
#150
I remember, also, they likely already have the army of lobbyists ready to start deregulation
Dragonfli
Jun 2012
#255
No longer on Fox. They are throwing a tantrum, and switch to Murdoch talking to Cavuto. n/t
Kencorburn
Jun 2012
#153
I have held off my few bucks that I can afford to contribute to Obama's campaign until now. :)
Javaman
Jun 2012
#119
Maybe having an elitist Harvard Law grad who was on law review mattered to
chelsea0011
Jun 2012
#122
You can always count on Roberts to side with Big Business , who in turn love the mandate.
Mr. Sparkle
Jun 2012
#137
Just heard the Republican's new mantra "biggest tax increase in US history", That could cause a prob
crimson77
Jun 2012
#139
Ha ha...I guess there are always stupid people who would buy that argument.
Evergreen Emerald
Jun 2012
#152
Reality? it's going to SAVE their whiney asses BILLIONS. Or would they rather pay for the uninsured
progressivebydesign
Jun 2012
#216
Why the fuck do they care? They have insurance or medicare.. this tax doesn't affect them.
progressivebydesign
Jun 2012
#220
Congratulations to the President, Democratic members of Congress, and the American People!!!!
kwenu
Jun 2012
#167
Naive here, I guess, but those who do not pay the penalty can't be sent to jail
cyberpj
Jun 2012
#172
The only collection mechanism is the penalty can be deducted from any income tax refund
PoliticAverse
Jun 2012
#188
The $upreme Court answers to their 'handlers.' Health insurance companies surely wanted it so.
joanbarnes
Jun 2012
#181
Presumably the pre-existing conditions section would have to pass the Senate
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2012
#195
It is. The Republicans want to do exactly that. So we must fill Congress with Democrats
Rochester
Jun 2012
#196
If they wanted to pull off on October Surprise, it'd have to be a LOT bigger than......
AverageJoe90
Jun 2012
#264
If we're forced to buy insurance to drive a car, or buy a home, then why not health insurance?
progressivebydesign
Jun 2012
#200
As predicted. Because it mandates trillions to big insurance that they will use to
grahamhgreen
Jun 2012
#207
Good grief, Pelosi is such a completely ineffective, uninspiring and shitty public speaker.
The Stranger
Jun 2012
#229
She sucks so bad that they news channels had to turn away from covering her.
The Stranger
Jun 2012
#231
Although I prefer Single Payer, it is nice to see our side win one for a change.
ronwelldobbs
Jun 2012
#245
Parents phoned excited that we might finally afford more than catastrophic insurance...burst bubble
mirrera
Jun 2012
#265
"Based on your income, you probably would not qualify for federal assistance to offset the cost of..
mirrera
Jun 2012
#312
It has been a great day -- if only just to see the GOP so thoroughly miserable!
Brooklyn Dame
Jun 2012
#309
Personally, I think this may not be the great news it is cracked up to be.
Atypical Liberal
Jun 2012
#315
I, for one, welcome our Corporate Overlords stranglehold on our health care
bread_and_roses
Jun 2012
#339