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BumRushDaShow

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23. Just like Ohio
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 04:41 PM
Aug 2016

is sortof considered a gateway to the "Midwest", Western PA is transitional to that region. Most of PA is rural. Hell... you can drive just outside of Philly and hit farms. I expect you had more folks (generationally) who were "self-employed" (whether via farming or in some sort of industry in support of agriculture - which is still one of our biggest industries) where "help" wasn't a 911 call away. So even through industrialization with the steel mills and labor unions, that "self-sufficiency" mentality is still there, and the post-FDR GOP was able to tap into that crowd (along with gaining the disaffected dixicrats of the south). This is why Trump is targeting the Amish claiming that he is "like them" (self-made business man who doesn't drink alcohol ).

But I think that now that the GOP has strayed into extremism, you will see more and more considering themselves "independent". They will most likely still vote GOP down ballot but will not support the top of the ticket. Remember this is the state that booted "teh crazy" Santorum by almost 18%. But in this case, because Toomey continually pivots his messaging (while Trump refuses to do so), this is why the Senate race is going to be close (and it really shouldn't be, meaning we need to wrap Trump around Toomey).

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Hi, you missed the title uppityperson Aug 2016 #1
Fixed brooklynite Aug 2016 #2
thanks uppityperson Aug 2016 #3
How did Iowa go from being more liberal to more wingnutty than the rest of the country. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #4
Yes. exboyfil Aug 2016 #8
the trump family believes in shooting anything that moves. will that help? nt msongs Aug 2016 #11
are you trying to convince them to vote Green instead of Clinton? geek tragedy Aug 2016 #14
I only encourage exboyfil Aug 2016 #26
Very simple. Scruffy1 Aug 2016 #17
This is one of the main reasons I wanted Hillary to pick Tom Vilsack as her running-mate. StevieM Aug 2016 #5
VA has 13 electoral votes leftynyc Aug 2016 #6
Taking Virginia off the table exboyfil Aug 2016 #7
But Vilsack might have helped in Western Pennsylvania, having grown up in Pittsburgh. StevieM Aug 2016 #9
You seem familiar with Pennsylvania; it is really in play this year? forest444 Aug 2016 #10
Right now she looks very strong in PA. But if the race were to narrow nationally then Pennsylvania StevieM Aug 2016 #12
Good. forest444 Aug 2016 #16
PA will NOT go for Trump BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #18
As a Pennsylvanian, BRDS, could you please explain what exactly is the problem w/ those folks? forest444 Aug 2016 #22
Just like Ohio BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #23
Thank you for that. forest444 Aug 2016 #24
Oh yeah BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #25
As shameless in politics as he is in business I see. forest444 Aug 2016 #27
Good God! progressoid Aug 2016 #28
They believe he'll stop the "browning of America" - which for them trumps even religious dogma. forest444 Aug 2016 #29
According to Trump, he will win Pennsylvania, unless the Democrats cheat. tclambert Aug 2016 #13
Good to hear - and yes: I fully expect the House to launch "electoral fraud" investigations. forest444 Aug 2016 #15
Every once in a while they hold a minority outreach seminar. tclambert Aug 2016 #19
The GOP have become the Grand Old Pathologists. forest444 Aug 2016 #20
Congrats to Hillary and her Team. riversedge Aug 2016 #21
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