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100. Wow. Being fairly free of medications so far, I confess

Sat Aug 27, 2016, 02:04 AM

Aug 2016

I hadn't thought it through to realize those rebates counted against the deductible and coinsurance. We've had one between the two of us--a $700 one-time medicine (which certainly wouldn't have done it on its own, but what if we expected to run up more bills?). But wiping out the deductible and more is like paying the patient to use a hyperpriced medication, and certainly allows the provider to prescribe it.

Thanks for the insight, Massacure.

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EpiPen maker lowers price after uproar [View all] DonViejo Aug 2016 OP

The Judiciary Committee hearing still should take place, even for cynical political reasons. ancianita Aug 2016 #1

Most Definitely... LovingA2andMI Aug 2016 #36

Absolutely. They're still going to gouge insurance Hortensis Aug 2016 #44

Yeah PatSeg Aug 2016 #56

Consumer Reports has a new [u]free[/u] article on EpiPen alternative. Hortensis Aug 2016 #57

That is really good to hear PatSeg Aug 2016 #58

Which month of the Consumer Reports is that in? dixiegrrrrl Aug 2016 #80

August for both the article and its follow-up. Hortensis Aug 2016 #81

They aren't the first to do that, unfortunately. Massacure Aug 2016 #99

Wow. Being fairly free of medications so far, I confess Hortensis Aug 2016 #100

Fraudulent billing and fantasy numbers- my chemo experience ($250,000 for 12 rounds) wordpix Aug 2016 #112

One of the oral chemo drugs I take costs about 8.5K for a 2-week supply. moonscape Aug 2016 #105

drug companies are in bed with insurance companies---drug pricing is a huge scam wordpix Aug 2016 #109

what, and rap the wrists of their puppetmasters? Won't happen, or it will be just for show wordpix Aug 2016 #110

That's my cynical take, but who knows; something might just get done. Obama's taught me hope. ancianita Aug 2016 #111

unfortunately, the noncompetitive drug pricing is Congress' doing - we need more Dems wordpix Aug 2016 #113

They met, came up with a dozen options and picked the one lowest the gullible would accept. TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #2

So does this mean they have still increased the price from $100 to $300. The way I read this, they EV_Ares Aug 2016 #3

that is the way I read it also rurallib Aug 2016 #35

Exactly, they have no morals, still scheming with their greed. EV_Ares Aug 2016 #41

The maker of the EpiPen is playing another dirty trick right from Martin Shkreli's book EV_Ares Aug 2016 #49

this stuff is rampant, see post 60 about my $20K IV drip wordpix Aug 2016 #62

That's what it sounds like to me too. The first price rise was a negotiating ploy � ask for . . . brush Aug 2016 #53

That is exactly what they did Ruby the Liberal Aug 2016 #73

Yeah, providing a coupon = not lowering price. harun Aug 2016 #82

Exactly what retailers do BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #4

This sounds like a Shkreli two-step. forest444 Aug 2016 #5

I saw a Tweet from a doctor that said that his cost on the med and a syringe is $2.71. onehandle Aug 2016 #6

A Paramedic in Salt Lake City has a solution: Stainless Aug 2016 #13

So the truth is people are having to pay for the apparatus not the Epinephrine. Unconscionable YOHABLO Aug 2016 #68

There is a very good reason for that Ruby the Liberal Aug 2016 #74

Did the CEO give back her bonus/raise? eom Frustratedlady Aug 2016 #7

I think I know why this happened so quickly DFW Aug 2016 #8

plus their stock nosedived in the past couple days eShirl Aug 2016 #23

Manchin's daughter got her bonus DFW Aug 2016 #25

looks like she might spend her great fortune on lawyers wordpix Aug 2016 #63

I hear you on the cost of chemo DFW Aug 2016 #67

I paid $20K out of pocket with O-care insurance in just 2 months wordpix Aug 2016 #85

Oh, the one with an MBA from Sorta Maybe U? Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author mark67 Aug 2016 #31

Except that Manchin is no friend of Camp Clinton DFW Aug 2016 #33

??? ---> Petrushka Aug 2016 #102

Of course he'll SAY that DFW Aug 2016 #104

And... LovingA2andMI Aug 2016 #37

Up to $300 drm604 Aug 2016 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author mark67 Aug 2016 #26

Yep, classic weaselly language. n/t Gormy Cuss Aug 2016 #47

Sounds like they still want to bill rainy Aug 2016 #10

Exactly, and that's a problem. drm604 Aug 2016 #11

Yep. When insurance companies pay, we ALL pay. crazylikafox Aug 2016 #21

Fuck them. This is one of the reasons why my ACA subsidy strategery blunder Aug 2016 #29

yes your must choose between your healthcare and improving your income wordpix Aug 2016 #65

I am experienced with the scandal going on, as a patient wordpix Aug 2016 #64

So true... I get charged around $500 for, literally, a 5 minute well visit with a nurse Francis Booth Aug 2016 #69

Lets put this in perspective for what it is turbinetree Aug 2016 #12

FWIW: America: What Went Wrong is available free with Amazon Kindle Unlimited subscription. napi21 Aug 2016 #42

They have gutted the budgets for all regulatory agencies many years ago. Dustlawyer Aug 2016 #45

absolutely true. Add to your agencies the Dept. of Agriculture wordpix Aug 2016 #86

grrr allan01 Aug 2016 #14

pure bs rdking647 Aug 2016 #15

also they did NOT reduce the list price. What they did is provide a "savings card" only for those still_one Aug 2016 #19

First of all 300 dollars is still too much. Epinephrine is extremely inexpensive, and it is stil still_one Aug 2016 #16

Yes, it's with other drugs.... forkol Aug 2016 #30

Yes, this is a systemic issue rather than an isolated one. suffragette Aug 2016 #88

this happened to glaucoma meds a few years back arithia Aug 2016 #17

K&R. Still not enough. Keeps the price-gouging issue on the table. Overseas Aug 2016 #18

Smoke and mirrors kacekwl Aug 2016 #20

They think a stupid coupon with shady wording will fix this? wildeyed Aug 2016 #22

Perhaps the industry most in need of nationalization. n/t eShirl Aug 2016 #24

EpiPen needs to be $2.00 retail and over the counter so the Corp will make 50% profit. Sunlei Aug 2016 #27

Makes me wonder if she will get a pay cut.n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2016 #28

ephedrine can't be otc MattP Aug 2016 #32

No Joe Told Heather... LovingA2andMI Aug 2016 #34

so rtracey Aug 2016 #38

Because children carry them Ruby the Liberal Aug 2016 #75

For adults, would something like this work? Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2016 #91

Whoa - thanks for that link! Ruby the Liberal Aug 2016 #98

Hey Heather, How's that $18 million raise you gave yourself doing? BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #39

You Mean... LovingA2andMI Aug 2016 #46

Woa. GREAT link, thanks! BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #48

There's zero chance she gives a shit. Oneironaut Aug 2016 #55

Yep. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #59

That does little for poor people Cryptoad Aug 2016 #40

That's still way too much! ananda Aug 2016 #43

It's still $300 for a drug that used to cost $57. Fuck you Mylan. Initech Aug 2016 #50

let's boycott them. Tell your docs: no Mylan drugs wordpix Aug 2016 #61

This way they can write it off as a business loss and we will pay for it through the govt. cbdo2007 Aug 2016 #51

so why did these people raise the price so high anyway ? allan01 Aug 2016 #52

The problem isn't that EpiPen is being immoral. The problem is, there's no reason they should care. Oneironaut Aug 2016 #54

"government has no desire to break up monopolies anymore" We need a Teddy Roosevelt wordpix Aug 2016 #66

The Congress has to do this. ananda Aug 2016 #90

Epipen is tip of iceberg; Congress refuses competitive drug pricing in O-care wordpix Aug 2016 #60

Why can't this bullshit be attacked from the anti-monopoly laws? Francis Booth Aug 2016 #70

THIS repuke Congress won't attack any monopoly wordpix Aug 2016 #87

It's certainly true that congress doesn't give one shit Francis Booth Aug 2016 #93

the only answer is a Dem--not Dino Manchin---Congress wordpix Aug 2016 #114

The government created the monopoly hugo_from_TN Aug 2016 #89

Hmmm... those devices have been around a while. I wonder Francis Booth Aug 2016 #92

The title of this article is really a misnomer. They didn't lower the price. blue neen Aug 2016 #71

Bastards didn't lower the price Ruby the Liberal Aug 2016 #72

+1,000!!! I hate these drug companies so much. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #118

A COUPON? PFFFTT! bravenak Aug 2016 #76

As repentant as Dumpf's 'apology' Panich52 Aug 2016 #77

As a person who carries one, I say Lifelong Protester Aug 2016 #78

About Time colsohlibgal Aug 2016 #79

The title of this story is false I believe workinclasszero Aug 2016 #83

You are correct. greatlaurel Aug 2016 #94

The problem is that doctors write "Epipen" on the prescription TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #84

Depends on the state. LeftyMom Aug 2016 #101

Well, that should be changing TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #106

How many other drug companies do we need to go after now? Ilsa Aug 2016 #96

All of the bastards workinclasszero Aug 2016 #97

I'm with you^^^^^^+1000 wordpix Aug 2016 #115

Seriously, how many people in this country will die area51 Aug 2016 #103

Outrageous that there's no competition, and Mylan pushed laws to REQUIRE pens in schools/facilities johnnyrocket Aug 2016 #107

thanks to repukes, the fed gov cannot buy ANY drugs from competing companies outside US wordpix Aug 2016 #108

Liars and frauds! Unit 001 Aug 2016 #116

But aren't they still charging insurance companies and the governments the high prices? PersonNumber503602 Aug 2016 #117

see my fraudulent billing post #112 wordpix Aug 2016 #119