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maddiemom

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4. And Stein is not entitled to our votes just because she's a Green party candidate.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 06:34 AM
Aug 2016

The Green party has some worthwhile ideas, but should be spending more effort at the grass roots level and building on that base. Just throwing unqualified candidates (sorry Ralph, you too) into the presidential ring is not the way to go (and yes, I know Stein has run for many offices). The Greens have lost years of ground with this strategy and have been in too much of a hurry. Also: I only recently began checking out Stein. My first impression of her: SMUG. As an educator (advanced degrees), I do favor free college tuition, but Jill had some very unrealistic ideas as to what that would accomplish: almost as if she were clueless about the job market today.

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Well, Jill is a crackpot communist who marvels at Soviet-style collectivism and central planning bluestateguy Aug 2016 #1
I don't know if she's a communist, but she is a crackpot. Anyone who votes... NNadir Aug 2016 #2
Bad enough that Jill Stein is an Antivaxxer alain2112 Aug 2016 #66
It goes with the Green party label. Nader was also a crackpot. NNadir Aug 2016 #81
The upper-middle class loony "latte liberal" technophobes are the Green Party's base. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #131
Jill Stein is not fodder. FarPoint Aug 2016 #8
I've never seen a Green take a real whack at capitalism. Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #32
Green on the outside and red on the inside? guillaumeb Aug 2016 #71
LOL! Odin2005 Aug 2016 #130
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #3
+1 Arazi Aug 2016 #9
+2 Duval Aug 2016 #68
And how exactly has she herself earned anyone's vote? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #13
I know what you meant..and I meant what I posted Demonaut Aug 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #16
But you give Stein a free pass. What has she done to earn your vote? AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #39
No one gave her a free pass OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #77
So, in essence, she is doing the old 'do as I say not as I do'.... Spazito Aug 2016 #107
Whatever that means. OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #108
I think she should walk her talk... Spazito Aug 2016 #109
I'm not sure she is looking for campaign advice from DU. OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #113
LOL, and I'm sure Hillary Clinton can say the same... Spazito Aug 2016 #115
I would hope Hillary is not looking for advice here either. OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #116
I am quite sure Hillary Clinton or her campaign do not come here looking for advice... Spazito Aug 2016 #117
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #120
Her statement is nothing but rhetoric ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #17
Exactly! Stein is so FOS. She has never been anything. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #40
you're just pointing out that in her ridiculous candidacy she said one thing right CreekDog Aug 2016 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #122
saying one thing right, especially when it's a truism, is not as impressive CreekDog Aug 2016 #128
true...she has not earned squat Demonaut Aug 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #14
Your job as a voter is to do what's best for your fellow citizens. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #45
I did not say for whom I am voting Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #52
I don't care who you vote for, that is for you to decide. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #56
Welcome to Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #57
That's right, run away from uncomfortable truths. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #58
Someone reminds you that this is not all about you. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #137
In a parliamentarian style government, she is right Ruby the Liberal Aug 2016 #30
+1 n/t Alkene Aug 2016 #41
Either Clinton or Trump will be the next President. If you don't care which it is ... William Seger Aug 2016 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #86
Nader without the accomplishments. Getting Republicans Elected Every November. nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #87
Rubbish LongtimeAZDem Aug 2016 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #85
She uttered a truism, big deal CreekDog Aug 2016 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #121
please get over yourself CreekDog Aug 2016 #129
And Stein is not entitled to our votes just because she's a Green party candidate. maddiemom Aug 2016 #4
Jill Stein is another example of how someone can be intelligent, but still not be very smart Siwsan Aug 2016 #5
Anti Vaxxer crackpots are not intelligent emulatorloo Aug 2016 #46
I base the intelligence remark on the fact she did make it through medical school and training Siwsan Aug 2016 #47
Understood. But then again there's that whole healing crystals thing. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #50
Next you will tell me that my garlic wreaths aren't keeping the vampires away!!!! Siwsan Aug 2016 #51
From what I see at universities these days, it takes pretty minimal intelligence Blasphemer Aug 2016 #53
Yea, but she is not a recent graduate - she graduated from Harvard Medical school in 1979 Siwsan Aug 2016 #55
Jill Stein is misguided. madaboutharry Aug 2016 #6
What does Stein think she herself has done to actually earn a vote? megahertz Aug 2016 #7
Maybe she has the best words. milestogo Aug 2016 #33
"Real change" will happen if you vote for Stein just as it did for those that voted for Nader Renew Deal Aug 2016 #10
Fuck Jill Stein ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #18
My thoughts exactly Stuckinthebush Aug 2016 #24
The Supreme Court gave us W in 2000 milestogo Aug 2016 #34
Never would have had a chance to do that Stuckinthebush Aug 2016 #49
Do you have charts/links to back up your accusations? Duval Aug 2016 #69
Go support the Greens elsewhere Stuckinthebush Aug 2016 #83
Actually this is not true. OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #78
Wrong Stuckinthebush Aug 2016 #82
this is an opinion piece OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #92
My own flaws? Stuckinthebush Aug 2016 #95
Actually your post is revisionist. OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #106
Forget Florida, see NH. Old and In the Way Aug 2016 #110
here's another article on how Nader "was indispensable to the Republican party" sherlocksistah Aug 2016 #84
Great articles Stuckinthebush Aug 2016 #90
yeah, ok, opinion pieces prove OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #91
Do you understand what "but-for causation" means? n/t BzaDem Aug 2016 #101
I do. Do you? OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #105
The problem is BzaDem Aug 2016 #118
Not irrelevant unless you don't know the figures. OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #123
What you say is true, and completely irrelevant to whether Nader was a "but-for" cause. BzaDem Aug 2016 #124
Why doesn't voting for a Green impact Trump and Clinton the same? HereSince1628 Aug 2016 #19
Warren's comments are as smart as she is. karynnj Aug 2016 #26
If I hold left wing ideals, but I don't christx30 Aug 2016 #35
Just to clarify, you're speaking hypothetically as an explanation for why someone on the left Fla Dem Aug 2016 #44
Right. I wouldn't vote for Jill. christx30 Aug 2016 #62
No I think not correct, it presumes a protest vote is the only reason to vote for other HereSince1628 Aug 2016 #70
+1 OrwellwasRight Aug 2016 #79
Well Said Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #138
I agree with her that votes have to be earned. Lucky Luciano Aug 2016 #20
Stein is dragging the Green Party down and will come in fourth book_worm Aug 2016 #21
Stein is begging the question. no_hypocrisy Aug 2016 #22
What has she done to earn our vote? Tempest Aug 2016 #23
Interestingly, she did not dispute Warren's point oberliner Aug 2016 #25
Jill, you need the earn the right for me to respect your opinion FLPanhandle Aug 2016 #27
Did you mean Jill? DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #28
Crap, yes. FLPanhandle Aug 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #31
Suddenly... I'm missing Ralph. Rustyeye77 Aug 2016 #36
How do those bus tires feel, Jill? nt longship Aug 2016 #37
Stein is a fucked up opportunistic fraud Gman Aug 2016 #38
“Politicians are not ‘entitled’ to our votes simply because they represent the establishment .... marble falls Aug 2016 #42
Jil Stein is taking a page out of Trump's talking-out-of-your-ass book AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #43
" " " " n/t MBS Aug 2016 #135
She's not a democratic Coolest Ranger Aug 2016 #48
A good example of why her support is so low and she's a crackpot. PSPS Aug 2016 #54
Stein is setting the stage MurrayDelph Aug 2016 #59
Warren will eat Stein for lunch. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #60
She has run several times statewide and has lost every single time. Mass Aug 2016 #73
She is a professional poltical loser. Old and In the Way Aug 2016 #114
Stein's Senate run against Elizabeth Warren Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #134
Third-party movements NHDEMFORLIFE Aug 2016 #61
She's Nader but devoid of all substance. Buzz Clik Aug 2016 #64
Jill Stein ..... LenaBaby61 Aug 2016 #67
True, but neither has Jill Stein Mass Aug 2016 #72
If anyone tells you they're voting for Jill Stein, just say "Paul LePage". brooklynite Aug 2016 #74
Fuck Jill Stein and her defenders. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #75
Perhaps she could have used her time giving her position but just as with Trump Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #76
to bad there's only 2 parties Fred Drum Aug 2016 #88
Worse still is a two party election system. Thrird parties are made irrelevant by the system. marble falls Aug 2016 #89
That's taking the easy way out. lucasjkr Aug 2016 #96
To build something lasting, you need to have a strong base first. lucasjkr Aug 2016 #93
So you think Jill Stein would have done better if she ran as a Democrat like Bernie did? Fla Dem Aug 2016 #132
Who the fuck is she talking about "us" and "our"?? ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #94
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #99
But most of those places have power-sharing in their administrations HereSince1628 Aug 2016 #100
Thanks for the good response LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #103
But Jill. It's YOU who has to earn our vote too - you can't just say stuff and think people are Kashkakat v.2.0 Aug 2016 #102
i think JILL STEIN is a horrible person trueblue2007 Aug 2016 #104
I love Elizabeth Warren, But she was a hold-out . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2016 #111
As Stein says, she's not entitled to the votes of liberals, Hillary has done more to earn the votes CreekDog Aug 2016 #112
Agree Kathy M Aug 2016 #125
I agree with both statements Bradical79 Aug 2016 #119
Agree Kathy M Aug 2016 #126
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Aug 2016 #127
Putin's Princess needs to shut the fuck up Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2016 #133
"Invest" implies a return. A vote for Stein will return nothing but a sense of smug superiority... BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #136
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