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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
61. I disagree
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:58 AM
Sep 2016

Syria weathered the Iraq thing OK. And it is their civil war causing most of the refugees.

Their problems got going after Tunisia had a successful revolution as did Egypt for a short period before the military, with our tacit approval, crushed it. The people in the gulf states tried and were repressed. Then we have Syria with a ruthless dictator. When his people went into the streets to protest, his troops start shooting them starting their civil war. That was not the fault of the US. And it cannot be said that the US supported Assad as his country has been sanctioned forever. The Russians get that particular blame.

The US has caused more than it's share of harm and misery, but it is inaccurate to lay all the problems on the Mideast at our feet.

And it helps build the narrative that the left dislikes the US since some on the left look to build their leftist credability by blaming all problems on us.

Have a nice day.

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Horrible. The poison is everywhere. LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #1
I am sure merkle expected this yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #2
The election was actually won by a center-left party. The RW populists were a distant second. pampango Sep 2016 #3
Hell, yes, center left SPD Red Mountain Sep 2016 #12
Good Dieter1 Sep 2016 #4
Welcome to DU. What decision was that? uppityperson Sep 2016 #5
I guess she should have gone against existing rules and conventions Hav Sep 2016 #9
I agree with you. smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #46
Keep in mind that she went fairly far to the right herself.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #6
The lesson for Merkel is not to go against the wishes of her own citizens FLPanhandle Sep 2016 #7
so that means DonCoquixote Sep 2016 #10
That means that if the population that is working christx30 Sep 2016 #11
Don't blow off racists as racist? Lordquinton Sep 2016 #13
Opposing completely unfettered immigration is NOT necessarily racist.. whathehell Sep 2016 #27
How was this unfettered? treestar Sep 2016 #30
Apparently, the people didn't like her decision whathehell Sep 2016 #34
It's what the law says it is treestar Sep 2016 #38
Apparently they don't want Angela, whathehell Sep 2016 #45
Good point. It is more nativism and religious intolerance than it is racism. pampango Sep 2016 #48
There are reasons to oppose unrestricted immigration that have nothing to do with any "ism" whathehell Sep 2016 #57
Of course there are. Accepting refugees is not the same as 'unrestricted immigration'. pampango Sep 2016 #58
No? Then go educate the Germans who seem to be having a difficult time with whathehell Sep 2016 #60
I suspect the 21% of that rural province who voted for AfD would be hard to 'educate' pampango Sep 2016 #62
Yeah, well, you keep suspectng that.. whathehell Sep 2016 #65
Equating unrestricted immigration policies to racism is not honest Yo_Mama Sep 2016 #52
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #47
Many people believe that popular ideas equate to fair ideas. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #59
Opposing one's own citizens is completely right when one's citizens are Fascists. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #66
Isn't her home state in the former East Germany? MADem Sep 2016 #8
"Germany's Pro-Putin Parties a Threat to Democracy" sherlocksistah Sep 2016 #67
This is what happens Elmergantry Sep 2016 #14
Bingo E-Z-B Sep 2016 #15
and it is all fallout from the illegal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan by the US. olddad56 Sep 2016 #25
I disagree GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #61
The Syrian conflict was largely kicked off by climate change NickB79 Sep 2016 #63
that's always been the case treestar Sep 2016 #31
yeah right Elmergantry Sep 2016 #36
They don't think they treat women like dogs treestar Sep 2016 #37
wow. nt Elmergantry Sep 2016 #39
Yeah, New Years Eve in Cologne says you're wrong on that one. NuclearDem Sep 2016 #40
Uh - no leftynyc Sep 2016 #64
If you come to the West, you have to play by the West's rules. NuclearDem Sep 2016 #41
Exactly. When in Rome... Elmergantry Sep 2016 #54
"culture and values is in complete opposition to your own " Rustyeye77 Sep 2016 #42
Racists - I don't like them, and I never will. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #16
So was letting in all refugees without any restrictions ansible Sep 2016 #17
The refugees must go somewhere. Little Tich Sep 2016 #19
How about Saudi Arabia? oberliner Sep 2016 #22
I suppose it doesn't hurt to ask a repressive dictatorship that doesn't care about its own Little Tich Sep 2016 #23
Turkey and Egypt could be described that way as well oberliner Sep 2016 #32
+10 whathehell Sep 2016 #26
Thank you. whathehell Sep 2016 #28
There were restrictions treestar Sep 2016 #29
"Stupid actions" didn't start with letting in refugees and it won't end with rw psychos in power ck4829 Sep 2016 #50
That's what you get when you let in a million plus people romanic Sep 2016 #18
Unfortunately, moondust Sep 2016 #20
Alternate headline: Left-leaning Social Democrats defeat Merkel's RW conservative party oberliner Sep 2016 #21
The SPD is a normal party. There's no shame to lose to them. Little Tich Sep 2016 #24
Yes, indeed oberliner Sep 2016 #33
Taking in refugees is liberal policy (see Canada). Conservatives (German and American) don't like it pampango Sep 2016 #35
I like that Germany took in all these refugees. Rustyeye77 Sep 2016 #43
Oh look! Its the German Donald Trump! Imperialism Inc. Sep 2016 #49
BTW the headline is misleading... LeftishBrit Sep 2016 #44
iirc SPD lost vote share (something like 35%->30%) while AfD went from nothing to 20% foo_bar Sep 2016 #55
Facism feeds on fear Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 #51
Hilarious to see so many DUers cheering for the success of a far right-wing party Hav Sep 2016 #53
+1 ck4829 Sep 2016 #56
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