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Puzzledtraveller

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114. In this case they resisted, obviously.

Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:29 PM

Sep 2016

The only thing I did not share with many people was the excitement and happiness about his death. It was all a tragedy and I have never understood celebrating someones deaths regardless of who it is.

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Jill Stein: 'I would not have assassinated' bin Laden [View all] molova Sep 2016 OP

Jill who? still_one Sep 2016 #1

Oh Jill, GWC58 Sep 2016 #4

I thought you were referring to Jill, of Jack and Jill fame from first grade still_one Sep 2016 #120

Also, every enemy solider in a war needs to be non-violently arrested... brooklynite Sep 2016 #2

Or violently arrested. Either way, cprise Sep 2016 #97

Hey, that's up to the enemy soldier. christx30 Sep 2016 #104

Don't fret. No one wanted bin Laden alive to stand trial. Jerry442 Sep 2016 #176

Boy, she is stupid. skylucy Sep 2016 #3

And that too! GWC58 Sep 2016 #5

If you listen to her, you'll find roody Sep 2016 #130

I've listened to her. She is stupid. skylucy Sep 2016 #133

She is stupid and an anti-vaxxer Loki Liesmith Sep 2016 #161

She's right. deathrind Sep 2016 #6

^^ THIS ^^ nt jonno99 Sep 2016 #7

Um, no. It is not against international law to kill someone you msanthrope Sep 2016 #9

Interesting question - are we at war? Congress has they exclusive power to declare war and it has 24601 Sep 2016 #27

Yeah....hate to break it to you, but under the WPA and the AUMF of 9/18/2001 msanthrope Sep 2016 #32

Break it all you want, but the administration disagrees with you as have previous 24601 Sep 2016 #39

most wars/armed conflicts are not declared by legislative bodies. geek tragedy Sep 2016 #83

Who is saying it wasn't legal? Not me. I don't hold that you must be at a state of declared 24601 Sep 2016 #88

I agree, but that seems to be relevant to a different argument. geek tragedy Sep 2016 #89

That's administrative regs. So what. nt msanthrope Sep 2016 #92

Myriad Substantive Laws, well beyond administrative regulations, have springboard provisions upon 24601 Sep 2016 #117

Yeah....erm, ok. Unfortunately for you, since the AUMF of 9/18/01 specifically invokes the WPA, it msanthrope Sep 2016 #122

And I recommend you read the 1973 WPA. It is clear that an AUMF is a vehicle that provides 24601 Sep 2016 #143

Yes. I think your last statement says it all...."no good lawyer." msanthrope Sep 2016 #150

Veterans, including military retirees, as well as current servicemen and women have no 24601 Sep 2016 #159

As I said, I think any veteran who served in the Iraq war would appreciate your msanthrope Sep 2016 #162

I don't presume to speak for all veterans; however, speaking for myself and the other combat 24601 Sep 2016 #170

i think it is Enrique Sep 2016 #90

Assassinations, yes. Killing people we are at war with? No. nt msanthrope Sep 2016 #93

Nopte Sgent Sep 2016 #165

I find it difficult to find any angst over him being shot and killed regardless of the law though cstanleytech Sep 2016 #98

We looked foolish for killing Bin Laden? vdogg Sep 2016 #10

In front of the world? leftynyc Sep 2016 #12

besides, he wasn't assassinated Mosby Sep 2016 #14

Was he really resisting... or was he just reaching for his weapon nonviolently like Gandhi? Bucky Sep 2016 #166

America looks pretty foolish to many Wibly Sep 2016 #16

LOL leftynyc Sep 2016 #20

he resisted arrest and was shot and killed Mosby Sep 2016 #21

"Resisted arrest"...ok... ncjustice80 Sep 2016 #132

Yes. Urchin Sep 2016 #36

Please, DU has already reached its Conspiracy Theory max during GD: P 2016 emulatorloo Sep 2016 #43

Sanders supported the mission to kill bin laden nt geek tragedy Sep 2016 #121

So..... Dorian Gray Sep 2016 #136

Killing enemies is not illegal. nt geek tragedy Sep 2016 #17

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Enemy is NOT an arbitrary term WRT to OBL. nt Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2016 #34

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Yes poor poor poor innocent Bin Laden emulatorloo Sep 2016 #45

You mean anyone who masterminds the destruction of American landmarks Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2016 #72

Welcome to DU, and you scare awfully easily. But geek tragedy is terribly frightening emulatorloo Sep 2016 #41

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I'm not laughing. And you know fuck all about me emulatorloo Sep 2016 #47

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Yes, clearly I am a murderous person who wants to kill thousands of innocent civilians. emulatorloo Sep 2016 #57

MIRT will be cleaning this one up quickly nt geek tragedy Sep 2016 #66

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This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Sep 2016 #73

Yup, I responded to him, then clicked "view all" again and he's suddenly Name Removed. nt Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Sep 2016 #76

I must've missed the stalker exceitment. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2016 #77

he outed himself as the stalker and revealed personal information about another DUer geek tragedy Sep 2016 #81

I saw the mention about that DUer in his post, but didn't read beyond that. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2016 #82

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Appalling. Yet somehow not surprising. emulatorloo Sep 2016 #110

Wow.. It doesn't seem, to me anyway, that you understand what DEC is talking about. pangaia Sep 2016 #75

that poster was just banned for posting Neo-Nazi and misogynist hate speech in another comment. geek tragedy Sep 2016 #78

A neo-nazi Dorian Gray Sep 2016 #137

6. He is a piece of shit Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2016 #79

That's correct, I am the bad guy who just doesn't understand the complex thinking of trolls emulatorloo Sep 2016 #112

You should choose who you defend more carefully. Codeine Sep 2016 #118

the real world isn't a bong-fest in a college dorm geek tragedy Sep 2016 #49

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WtDU; EYSS nt geek tragedy Sep 2016 #59

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This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Sep 2016 #64

Hey, welcome back sarisataka Sep 2016 #65

Fucking Pinebagger. Codeine Sep 2016 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Sep 2016 #69

bin laden massacred 3000 people in my city. any definition of 'enemy' that doesn't include geek tragedy Sep 2016 #48

Who was it that decided sarisataka Sep 2016 #51

Well said. pangaia Sep 2016 #68

Lol. Great minds think alike? geek tragedy Sep 2016 #71

Well, in the same sense that killing people in general isn't illegal metalbot Sep 2016 #50

Gulen isn't an international fugitive on the run from the entire international community geek tragedy Sep 2016 #53

So what's the line that makes one legal and the other not? metalbot Sep 2016 #60

not sure there's a cut and dry answer on the technical legality geek tragedy Sep 2016 #63

Sure, and have how many attacks Ilsa Sep 2016 #85

Who looked foolish? I think most of babylonsister Sep 2016 #100

why would we want to spend our tax dollars keeping OBL in jail? trueblue2007 Sep 2016 #101

Free Jill... Rustyeye77 Sep 2016 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Sep 2016 #8

Maybe a warrant for his arrest sarisataka Sep 2016 #11

Sadly Wibly Sep 2016 #18

Uh, there was most definitely a firefight inside of his complex. He was armed. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #29

I thought the question of his being armed sarisataka Sep 2016 #35

If we had done that (asked Pakistan to extradite him), christx30 Sep 2016 #147

Bin Laden Wibly Sep 2016 #13

Which slime leftynyc Sep 2016 #22

Really? Dorian Gray Sep 2016 #138

Yes, should have read him his rights on the ground in Pakistan and given him geek tragedy Sep 2016 #15

Forget her, that woo-woo wacko isn't making anything happen. DinahMoeHum Sep 2016 #19

Obama already covered this topic responding to Michael Moore's criticism... mobeau69 Sep 2016 #23

We are either a country of laws or a country of men. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2016 #24

If he had surrendered, yes, he should have been brought to trial. msanthrope Sep 2016 #33

It was also unlikely, since the seals understood that capturing him would have been insubordination. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2016 #40

Bin Laden had 10 years to surrender. He didn't. nt msanthrope Sep 2016 #94

That is fine, you would have sent troops in to restrain him and they would have ended up Rex Sep 2016 #25

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The Pakistanis gave up Khalid Sheikh Muhammad hack89 Sep 2016 #52

Good for her. closeupready Sep 2016 #28

The KGB would disagree with assassinated bin Laden. stonecutter357 Sep 2016 #31

Bin Laden ain't assassinated. Jill is toast. Justice Sep 2016 #37

Dear Ms. Stein, 47 hears ya... 47of74 Sep 2016 #42

Ideally, it would have been nice to capture him alive. Gore1FL Sep 2016 #46

It was emminately possible zipplewrath Sep 2016 #86

"We are going to have to begin taking risks to wage law enforcement instead of war, or the war... EX500rider Sep 2016 #107

More like the SEALs tackle him zipplewrath Sep 2016 #116

Well then Thank God for President Obama! misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #54

Death was his choice... Mike Nelson Sep 2016 #56

Too bad suing Saudi Arabia instead of placating them is out of the question, Why again ? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2016 #62

The Saudis pump so the US dollar remains cprise Sep 2016 #99

15 yrs ago a fool picked a fight with the American people, he learned that GOLGO 13 Sep 2016 #80

She's a crank Renew Deal Sep 2016 #84

Jill Stein will never be in the position to make such a determination (n/t) PJMcK Sep 2016 #87

this is the problem with novices...she has no f*ckin clue.... beachbum bob Sep 2016 #95

Good, glad you aren't ever going to be elected President LynneSin Sep 2016 #96

Fuck "Doctor" Jill Moonbat. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #102

Not surprising left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #103

They would have preferred to take him alive Motley13 Sep 2016 #105

He was wanted Dead or Alive, his guards exchanged fire, bin Laden wasn't going alive. Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #106

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This nutcase is giving me warm feelings for Nader. onehandle Sep 2016 #109

Thanks Jill for making me miss Ralph. Rustyeye77 Sep 2016 #111

In this case they resisted, obviously. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2016 #114

Since I don't consider her to have a legitimate chance jimlup Sep 2016 #115

No. It was not. You are conflating assassination with combatant death. nt msanthrope Sep 2016 #128

Sorry no jimlup Sep 2016 #131

Bin Laden was a combatant, who chose not to surrender and was killed during a raid. msanthrope Sep 2016 #139

Established only in the propaganda world of the American propaganda system jimlup Sep 2016 #140

Okay....your view is rather elitist. You seem to think only rank and file, grunts are combatants, msanthrope Sep 2016 #141

So it would not be a war crime jimlup Sep 2016 #144

If you want a real war crime then how about the one committed on Sept 11th 2001? cstanleytech Sep 2016 #146

An eye for an eye jimlup Sep 2016 #154

Nope, not an eye for an eye in this case more of putting down a rabid dog. nt cstanleytech Sep 2016 #156

Only if you recognize stateless terrorist forces as legitimate entities on par msanthrope Sep 2016 #149

Ah so then jimlup Sep 2016 #155

So how would you have handled it? christx30 Sep 2016 #158

It is fairly simple actually jimlup Sep 2016 #163

Would you have told Pakistan? Or would you have kept them in the dark, christx30 Sep 2016 #164

No jimlup Sep 2016 #169

So Naive ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #171

You don't have to be armed to be a combatant.. EX500rider Sep 2016 #160

This message was self-deleted by its author cstanleytech Sep 2016 #145

She has as much chance of being president as I do, Codeine Sep 2016 #119

Killing the bastard is just fine. nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2016 #123

I am pretty much a pacifist, but I would not have hesitated a second in this case JCMach1 Sep 2016 #124

The Green Party is crazy MelSC Sep 2016 #125

Jill Stein LenaBaby61 Sep 2016 #126

A great example of why Jill Stein is polling at 2%. n/t hughee99 Sep 2016 #127

Scary that 2% of the population supports her redstateblues Sep 2016 #129

Yeah, but not the scariest percentage I've seen this year. Bucky Sep 2016 #167

Nobody cares, Jill. DawgHouse Sep 2016 #134

Absolutely the only thing Jill Stein says I agree with 100%. marble falls Sep 2016 #135

Complete Loony Toons. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #142

She's is so brilliant and wouldn't it be epic? nolabels Sep 2016 #148

I believe Jill...she would have been too busy fighting for anti-vaxxers to care about OBL nt Fresh_Start Sep 2016 #151

This thing... UMTerp01 Sep 2016 #152

And this buffoon thinks she could be President? PeteSelman Sep 2016 #153

She obviously has a VERY high opinion of herself. beaglelover Sep 2016 #157

She sounds like Colossius at the end of Deadpool Rocknrule Sep 2016 #168

And that is why she'd be such a shitty POTUS Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #172

Anyone who does not agree 100% with Obama is a traitor GummyBearz Sep 2016 #173

if we captured him alive, he would no longer be a larger than life boogey man yurbud Sep 2016 #174

Instead, he's dead. christx30 Sep 2016 #175