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62. No one is keeping anything quiet.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #61)

Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:55 PM

Sep 2016

And no one is giving him "the benefit of the doubt".

It's been known for many, many years that Ivana accused Trump of raping her. She also back-peddled on that accusation after the fact. The tabloids had a field day with the issue at the time - this is not news.

Right now, Trump is operating under a huge pile of shit - throwing a tiny turd on that pile is not going to accomplish a thing.

In addition, those records are sealed. They contain information about Ivana and their children. They have a right to privacy, whether we like them as people or not.

How desperate would the Dems look if they tried to make an issue of what two people said or did in the context of a divorce that occurred 26 years ago, especially in light of the FACTS of what Trump has said and done publicly - no digging up dirt from a private matter two decades ago necessary?

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Donald and Ivana Trump fight unsealing of divorce records [View all] brooklynite Sep 2016 OP

Must be hidding something. Wellstone ruled Sep 2016 #1

we know about the rape charges, ivana. wonder what other dirty little tidbits are in there. niyad Sep 2016 #2

Probably how much hush money was paid to Ivana Warpy Sep 2016 #22

No tax returns. No health records. No business deals. jaysunb Sep 2016 #3

And almost anyone who PatSeg Sep 2016 #12

All the more reason 2naSalit Sep 2016 #16

Can you imagine a Trump administration? PatSeg Sep 2016 #38

All the 2naSalit Sep 2016 #39

Yeah, who would have thought PatSeg Sep 2016 #41

Ha! 2naSalit Sep 2016 #65

Maybe North Korea then? PatSeg Sep 2016 #66

Heyy... 2naSalit Sep 2016 #67

Well PatSeg Sep 2016 #69

As unpopular as this opinion will be ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #4

I agree with you. We have substantial substantive things to be dealing moonscape Sep 2016 #6

Yes. 2 points: 26 years is very long time, and the other person has rights too. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #8

I would agree with you in most instances, but, a couple things give jaysunb Sep 2016 #11

And exactly what ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #17

There's the rape allegation (trigger warning: description of sexual violence) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #37

You realize ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #52

That assumes the whole electorate is already divided into Trump supporters and detractors muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #55

What I'm saying is ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #56

How often is the allegation of rape against Trump talked about on main TV news? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #59

... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #60

The more things wrong about Trump that are publicised, the better muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #61

No one is keeping anything quiet. NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #62

The records are sealed; arguing they should be kept sealed is keeping them quiet muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #63

Whether I think ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #64

Um, Nance -- ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #46

Yes, you are. NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #47

Umm... they are not "unsealed for ordinary people" either jberryhill Sep 2016 #54

Sorry, I see it's a state by state thing. Thanks for the correction. ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #68

Me, too romana Sep 2016 #14

Agree� dhill926 Sep 2016 #18

Bullshit, every thing is open when you run for office gopiscrap Sep 2016 #19

No, not everything is open to public scrutiny. NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #23

like I said, she married the guy when he was already a well known public figure gopiscrap Sep 2016 #25

No, "loss of privacy" ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #27

While I'm sympathetic to the points you make, I propose that one could look thru another lens ... brett_jv Sep 2016 #29

... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #49

Yep. They've even gone after Hillary for NOT divorcing Bill. maddiemom Sep 2016 #51

i agree. nt DesertFlower Sep 2016 #28

I disagree Scarsdale Sep 2016 #32

And Trump would be an asshole for it. PersonNumber503602 Sep 2016 #43

Trump has no authority ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #50

i mostly agree w you. there is so much more treasure in the mopinko Sep 2016 #40

The Trumps' divorce records are sealed ... NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #48

I agree. His business dealings and tax records are fair game, but I don't see how this is. PersonNumber503602 Sep 2016 #42

I predict that this attitude is why we're going to lose. The Stranger Sep 2016 #44

Yes, of course. NanceGreggs Sep 2016 #53

High opinions of themselves, low opinions of others bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #5

Trump has no qualms about delving into the Clintons' past marriage history. keithbvadu2 Sep 2016 #7

Doing a wrong against Ivana would not make the wrongs against Clinton right or undo them. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #9

who gives a shit about Ivana gopiscrap Sep 2016 #20

Exactly MFM008 Sep 2016 #26

Ivana is NOT married to Trump. She has no part in his Presidential politics. Divorced him decades Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #30

True Scarsdale Sep 2016 #33

'If someone has to suffer so be it' melman Sep 2016 #57

Being objective and leaning toward privacy rights, if both don't want it to happen, it shouldn't. phleshdef Sep 2016 #10

I think I know why she's fighting to keep them private. I think she agreed that if they ever get truthisfreedom Sep 2016 #13

I suspect there was money involved to get them sealed initially... phleshdef Sep 2016 #15

Nope once you run for president gopiscrap Sep 2016 #21

Ugly Scarsdale Sep 2016 #34

If Bill and Hillary had Divorced you can bet Trump would be opening that file Wibly Sep 2016 #24

Clintons both political. Ivana had & has nothing to do with Trump's politics or campaign. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #31

He's the one who brought up Bill's infidelity wasn't he?? titaniumsalute Sep 2016 #35

It's just one more aspect of the character issue bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #45

Long article .... interesting one will go back and read later , found this part interesting to post Kathy M Sep 2016 #58

Thanks for sharing that article ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #70